Birthers Hail Judge’s Decision That Could “Depose” Obama

[stu]

Quote from jem:

Note: If you are going to argue the court had no subpoena power... you are going to have to explain why Obama lost his motion to quash.

It's perfectly obvious not being granted a motion to quash a subpoena, does not itself establish the power of the issuing authority .
There is argument whether the subpoena power of Congress is absolute never mind that of an Administrative Judge trying to subpoena a President, and in Georgia, where validation and enforcement must come from the superior court in any event.

It would be nice to think any President has to respond to the law like every other joe, but in law, in a case such as this, it is not clear that they do, nor is it sensible to suggest any President should be obliged or should need to constantly respond over 80 times to the same fatuous claim already previously many times judged invalid and groundless in court .

Case Closed...really?
Thanks anyway Judge Judy, but it's clear after 80+ failed attempts of not having a case to answer, birthers are never going to agree with that.

 

[jem]

Quote from stu:

It's perfectly obvious not being granted a motion to quosh a subpoena, does not itself establish the power of the issuing authority .
There is argument whether the subpoena power of Congress is absolute never mind that of an Administrative Judge trying to subpoena a President, and in Georgia, where validation and enforcement must come from the superior court in any event.

It would be nice to think any President has to respond to the law like every other joe, but in law, in a case such as this, it is not clear that they do, nor is it sensible to suggest any President should be obliged or should need to constantly respond over 80 times to the same fatuous claim already previously many times judged invalid and groundless in court .

Case Closed...really?
Thanks anyway Judge Judy, but it's clear after 80+ failed attempts of not having a case to answer, birthers are never going to agree with that.

Nothing but troll bullshit. You are now arguing with blacks law dictionary. I thought you told me its not a default til the judge made a default judgment. Now you are arguing the judge had no jurisdiction.
No cites, no case law, no definitions. Just pure bullshit by Stu.
As I predicted.

Obama chose to default by not presenting any evidence or even sending his lawyer. If you wish to argue jurisdiction take it up with the court.

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from jem:

Nothing but troll bullshit. You are now arguing with blacks law dictionary. I thought you told me its not a default til the judge made a default judgment. Now you are arguing the judge had no jurisdiction.
No cites, no case law, no definitions. Just pure bullshit by Stu.
As I predicted.

Obama chose to default by not presenting any evidence or even sending his lawyer. If you wish to argue jurisdiction take it up with the court.

And somehow Obama is still the President of the United States, amazing. If not for us, do it for the children.

 

[jem]

Quote from bigarrow:

And somehow Obama is still the President of the United States, amazing. If not for us, do it for the children.

it takes half a brain to understand procedure... stu does seem to have half. I suspect you do, so what motivates such an off point statement.

this was a challenge to his being on the ballot in georgia for the next election

that has nothing to do with him being president now.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:



This court in Georgia is just the first stop. soon all you loons will see.

If Obama does not wish to present evidence that he is qualified for the ballot. He will not be on the ballot in numerous states.

You still think Obama will not be on the ballot in numerous states jem ?

 

[jem]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

You still think Obama will not be on the ballot in numerous states jem ?

I was impressed by his legal teams ability to get on the ballot without a birth certificate but with simply an approval for nuclear reactor or two?

I was completely unimpressed with the plaintiffs bar.

I am now thinking Obama will probably be at risk in only 2 or 3 states. But, I would now not be surprised if he is on all the ballots.

Frankly, I can not believe you can get on ballots without even submitting a birth certificate under oath.

But, I see it happening before my very eyes. So Rubio and Jindal and Schwarzenegger might as well run in 2016. We no longer enforce the constitution.

 

[Eight]

Quote from jem:



But, I see it happening before my very eyes. So Rubio and Jindal and Schwarzenegger might as well run in 2016. We no longer enforce the constitution.

It takes an awful lot of time and resources to keep people from encroaching on the constitution, most don't bother.. I wonder how much a very well funded legal team, operating like the ACLU, could do in that regard..

 

[stu]

Quote from jem:
Nothing but troll bullshit. You are now arguing with blacks law dictionary. I thought you told me its not a default til the judge made a default judgment. Now you are arguing the judge had no jurisdiction.
No cites, no case law, no definitions. Just pure bullshit by Stu.
As I predicted.

Obama chose to default by not presenting any evidence or even sending his lawyer. If you wish to argue jurisdiction take it up with the court.

Talk about troll bullshit. Coming from you, that's rich.

No, I'm not arguing against Black's I'm arguing against you. You're pettily bickering about an alleged default when all the time the Judge will decide on the circumstances, if there was in fact, default. You don't, neither does Black's.. It is only the outcome and application of law itself which is required to confirm and establish default in court. Go look up the definition of crime, then tell me a defendant chose to do crime before all the facts are established in court.

The Judge has stated here what he would have done "under normal circumstances", which can only mean these were not normal circumstances, and accordingly , no default order is made. The only default he was prepared to consider apparently was a decision defaulting in favor of loony plaintiff birfers.

This happened in a court that cannot itself compel testimony, and where a President does not twitch at every procedural demand, and a learned Judge who must have known from the outset what he had to find in law, and which in the end, did find.

Quote from jem:

But, I see it happening before my very eyes. So Rubio and Jindal and Schwarzenegger might as well run in 2016. We no longer enforce the constitution.

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  "For the purposes of this analysis, this Court considered that President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Therefore, as discussed in Arkeny, he became a citizen at birth and is a natural born citizen. "
  
  MICHAEL M. MALIHI, Judge

That is, according to law, the law which the Judge knew of from the get go, birth certificate lunacy fails, natural born citizen craziness fails.
What is that now.... 81 serial fails? It's an ugly embarrassment, and because of nothing other than maniacal conspiracy and birther refusals to accept reality, consequentially the law is brought into disrepute by it.

Quote from jem:

I trust the legal process.

It seems not. You are clearly still birther rapture ready

 

[stu]

Quote from Eight:

It takes an awful lot of time and resources to keep people from encroaching on the constitution, most don't bother.. I wonder how much a very well funded legal team, operating like the ACLU, could do in that regard..

The law apparently "bothers" to keep a well funded group of conspiracy birther nutjobs encroaching on the constitution. Thank goodness for that at least

 

[jem]

Quote from stu:

Talk about troll bullshit. Coming from you, that's rich.

No, I'm not arguing against Black's I'm arguing against you. You're pettily bickering about an alleged default when all the time the Judge will decide on the circumstances, if there was in fact, default. You don't, neither does Black's.. It is only the outcome and application of law itself which is required to confirm and establish default in court. Go look up the definition of crime, then tell me a defendant chose to do crime before all the facts are established in court.

The Judge has stated here what he would have done "under normal circumstances", which can only mean these were not normal circumstances, and accordingly , no default order is made. The only default he was prepared to consider apparently was a decision defaulting in favor of loony plaintiff birfers.

This happened in a court that cannot itself compel testimony, and where a President does not twitch at every procedural demand, and a learned Judge who must have known from the outset what he had to find in law, and which in the end, did find.

• 
  "For the purposes of this analysis, this Court considered that President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Therefore, as discussed in Arkeny, he became a citizen at birth and is a natural born citizen. "
  
  MICHAEL M. MALIHI, Judge

That is, according to law, the law which the Judge knew of from the get go, birth certificate lunacy fails, natural born citizen craziness fails.
What is that now.... 81 serial fails? It's an ugly embarrassment, and because of nothing other than maniacal conspiracy and birther refusals to accept reality, consequentially the law is brought into disrepute by it.




It seems not. You are clearly still birther rapture ready

you are a complete troll and liar. you started the bickering.

I made the simple and correct statement that Obama chose to default instead of producing proof of eligibility. The plaintiffs elected to put on their case instead of accepting a default. (that was non normal part)

You can argue with case law and blacks dictionary all you wish.
Your bullshit can not change the facts.

Obama was supposed to attend the hearing or at least send his lawyer, Obama was to respond to a subpeona for documents. He chose to default instead of comply with the subpoenas after his motion to quash failed.

In every non moron brain in america... that is a default.

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By the way, you still have presented the georgia code or case law saying an ALJ judge can not issue a subpoena for documents or a subpoena for attendance. You know why because you are full of shit... the motion to quash failed.