Birther lawyer Taitz slapped with $20,000 sanction

Fear Not: What does virtual rumor-mongering say about Christians?
By Robert Marus & Ken Camp
Monday, October 19, 2009


WASHINGTON (ABP) -- Thanks to the Internet, some gullible American Christians can engage in one of their favorite hobbies -- digging up the metaphorical corpse of Madalyn Murray O’Hair and rhetorically flogging it -- more easily than ever before.

Even though the famous atheist’s body was discovered in 1998 and positively identified in Texas -- and even though she apparently has been dead since she disappeared in 1995 -- patently false rumors about her alleged anti-Christian campaigns continue to spread. Credulous Christians who once forwarded these kinds of rumors in mimeographed chain letters or spread them on talk radio now can broadcast them around the world with the mere click of a mouse.

And, of course, O’Hair is not alone in the annals of perceived enemies of Christ about whom some Christians will spread the most ridiculous stories, not bothering to do the merest hint of fact-checking on them.


From the old Procter & Gamble Satanism libel to tales of more recent vintage about President Obama’s faith and citizenship, Internet-fueled rumors seem to run rampant. And, frighteningly, Christians seem at the very least to be as susceptible as the population at large to the habit of spreading false stories.


So, why are Christians so willing to believe unsubstantiated rumors? And more troubling, why are Christians, who should hold the highest standards of truth-telling, so eager to spread such rumors -- and even downright libels?

http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4496&Itemid=53
 
Quote from stu:

Yeah, what does she know. She's only the Hawaii State Health Director who has already officially committed herself as have other Officials and formally stated she has seen the vital records. Obviously incapable of assessing eligibility of a Natural Born citizen. But internet partis pris aficionados with no more than mere accusations and assumptions can know she is wrong.


No. It is not rather self evident you can't have a British father and be Natural Born.

If you are going to make assumptions like that I could assert more convincingly I think, it's rather self-evident a person born in a US State and therefore on US soil, where either parent is a US citizen, especially the mother, constitutes a Natural Born citizen.

Why do you think Obama is hiding his records?
 
Quote from vhehn:

Fear Not: What does virtual rumor-mongering say about Christians?
By Robert Marus & Ken Camp
Monday, October 19, 2009


WASHINGTON (ABP) -- Thanks to the Internet, some gullible American Christians can engage in one of their favorite hobbies -- digging up the metaphorical corpse of Madalyn Murray O’Hair and rhetorically flogging it -- more easily than ever before.

Even though the famous atheist’s body was discovered in 1998 and positively identified in Texas -- and even though she apparently has been dead since she disappeared in 1995 -- patently false rumors about her alleged anti-Christian campaigns continue to spread. Credulous Christians who once forwarded these kinds of rumors in mimeographed chain letters or spread them on talk radio now can broadcast them around the world with the mere click of a mouse.

And, of course, O’Hair is not alone in the annals of perceived enemies of Christ about whom some Christians will spread the most ridiculous stories, not bothering to do the merest hint of fact-checking on them.


From the old Procter & Gamble Satanism libel to tales of more recent vintage about President Obama’s faith and citizenship, Internet-fueled rumors seem to run rampant. And, frighteningly, Christians seem at the very least to be as susceptible as the population at large to the habit of spreading false stories.


So, why are Christians so willing to believe unsubstantiated rumors? And more troubling, why are Christians, who should hold the highest standards of truth-telling, so eager to spread such rumors -- and even downright libels?

http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4496&Itemid=53

Why do liberals believe in Socialism when it has failed everytime it has been tried?

To liberals, government is a religion. The only true religion. God Bless the Government, Long live the King.
 
Quote from jficquette:

Why do liberals believe in Socialism when it has failed everytime it has been tried?

To liberals, government is a religion. The only true religion. God Bless the Government, Long live the King.
i havent heard anybody talk about socialism except wingnuts on the right.
 
Making up lies is the the way of the right wing extremists...

None of their arguments withstand the light or disinfectant of common sense...

Most of these dead brain stem republicans don't even understand what socialism actually is, and no socialist would still be in a war with Iraq or Afghanistan, and certainly a socialist would not have bailed out the corporate scum in Wall Street or Detroit...

Quote from vhehn:

i havent heard anybody talk about socialism except wingnuts on the right.
 
this is what happens - you have a bunch a numb nuts on the left saying a HI official said"
she inspected the records and declared him natural born.

Yet earlier in this someone else produced the quote - and for those who can read

all she said was that they have the records.

She did not say shit about what the records say.

Yet dumb as turd leftist are saying she said Obama is natural born.

How fricken stupid. The left does not even understand that we have courts to make those determinations. Not HI dept of public records officials.

Then we have another person who keeps citing definitions for citizen instead of natural born citizen.

You can be a citizen without being Natural born. How many times do you have to be told the same thing.

If you want to have a discussion with the right - you have to elevate your intelligence and discuss the constitutional qualifications to be president.

Its not citizen its not naturalized its natural born.
 
Quote from stu:

State officials in Hawaii have publically stated they have checked and confirm President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

It's all over the interweb - has been for a while, although it doesn't stop the conspiracy theorists thinking up some spin or twist. From dodgy birth certificates to non constitutional eligibility.


The Hawaii State Health Director has already officially and formally stated she has seen the vital records and verifies the President was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen

You have recognized legal authorities publically stating as fact the certificate and the natural born status.

Then there are the conspirators and a few jumped up internet "lawyers" with no facts, asserting Obama may not be eligible because they (the conspirators) can make up false statements, presume State Officials would not know what 'natural born' means constitutionally, and develop scenarios which do not correspond with the official records as they have been attested.

There would by now after all the attention, be prima facie evidence that the records were wrong or false. They've been independently viewed and commented on by so many journalists , there are the birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers, and all the many and various eccentrics and attention seekers in the world have popped a shot, for goodness sakes.
Yet there is no evidence to make any case fit for Court.

Although there will always be the slow witted "lawyers" late at catching on, who couldn't tell a cite from a site, continuously confusing themselves.


The above is an example of the ignorance of the left.


This poster has so little comprehension that he claims that state official has declared Obama a natural born citizen and by implication the "birthers" should just give up.


The statement is so dumb it is comedy.

Officials have confirmed Obama is a Natural born citizens

Has to be the most ingnorant post of the year.

Really?

1. The official said they have his records. Somehow in the bizarro world of leftist fools this becomes confirmation of Obama being a Natural born citizen.

This ignorance of language could be excused by a low comprehension however fool then goes on to grant amazing powers to this official...

2. This dope believes that a records official can deem Obama a Natural born citizen. This must be a new power of the federal executive branch that goes through state legislatures and deems super supreme court powers on record keepers.

lets review - The president usurps power from the U.S. supreme court - and passes that power over to the state. The state legislature then takes that magical power and grants it to a record keeper. Now the record keep has more power than the U.S. Supreme court.

She can determine the meaning of the U.S. constitution and declare someone a Natural born citizen.

This guys has the hubris to make fun of people who do not think like he does.

Does anyone wonder - why this poster never supports any of his statements.

does anyone wonder if this poster has any credibility.



Not on the left.
 
"If you want to have a discussion with the right - you have to elevate your intelligence and discuss the constitutional qualifications to be president."

Dude, you are dumb as a floating turd.

You have been helplessly and haplessly unable to unequivocally state what it would take to satisfy your doubt, and now you think there is some elevation needed to have a discussion with the right?

Beyond laughable...

Tell me you have a brain tumor or dementia that at least would explain how uninformed and ignorant you are coming across...

"Its not citizen its not naturalized its natural born."

Read that quote from your blather below.

It's It's tits not its...

Quote from jem:

this is what happens - you have a bunch a numb nuts on the left saying a HI official said"
she inspected the records and declared him natural born.

Yet earlier in this someone else produced the quote - and for those who can read

all she said was that they have the records.

She did not say shit about what the records say.

Yet dumb as turd leftist are saying she said Obama is natural born.

How fricken stupid. The left does not even understand that we have courts to make those determinations. Not HI dept of public records officials.

Then we have another person who keeps citing definitions for citizen instead of natural born citizen.

You can be a citizen without being Natural born. How many times do you have to be told the same thing.

If you want to have a discussion with the right - you have to elevate your intelligence and discuss the constitutional qualifications to be president.

Its not citizen its not naturalized its natural born.
 
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

Narcissistic personality disorder

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love (megalomania)
3. believes they are "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also "special" or of high status
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Just to clarify, are you referring to Optional777 or Obama?
 
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