Birther Central - Trump Sends In The Investigators

[Spike Trader]

Quote from good ole boy:

You and Optional are both wrong, but you Jem are an ignoramus nonpareil

United States Constitution, Article IV, Section I:

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."

It's quite clear that if HI certifies the birth of an individual, then
it must be recognized by each and every other state. Even Idaho and Alaska.

And btw, Marketsurfer, why don't you go back to blowing Larry Conners.

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[bugscoe]

Quote from good ole boy:

He can't be denied a spot on the ballot over the issue of citizenship.

10 of the United States -- controlling 107 Electoral College votes -- are now considering some type of legislation" that requires presidential candidates to provide proof of constitutional eligibility.

Two of the states' proposed bills contain additional eligibility requirements that trump a long-form birth certificate, even a pricey $100 souvenir version crafted by Hawaii lawmakers. The Arizona bill requires: "A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America." The Nebraska bill further requires that the candidate attest to three conditions on the day of his birth: he was subject only to the jurisdiction of the U.S., owed allegiance to no other country, and that both his mother and father were U.S. citizens.

Dual citizenship, a divided allegiance that experts contend the Constitution's framers sought to avoid for the Presidency, is a status created when the country of a child's birth (documented by a birth certificate) and the country of citizenship of the parents are in conflict. Obviously the Arizona and Nebraska legislators concerned themselves with crafting laws supporting the Constitution's finer points of eligibility rather than the sensational search for the missing long form.

Unless Obama pulls out a certificate listing a birth father other than the one Abercrombie remembers seeing him with as a child, or reneges on the assertion on his "Fight the Smears" campaign website that he had, until age 23, foreign citizenship from his Kenyan father, he won't qualify for the ballots in these two states.

 

[bugscoe]

Quote from good ole boy:

You and Optional are both wrong, but you Jem are an ignoramus nonpareil

United States Constitution, Article IV, Section I:

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."

It's quite clear that if HI certifies the birth of an individual, then
it must be recognized by each and every other state. Even Idaho and Alaska.

And btw, Marketsurfer, why don't you go back to blowing Larry Conners.

You know the fight is over when liberals start citing the Constitution.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from bugscoe:




10 of the United States -- controlling 107 Electoral College votes -- are now considering some type of legislation" that requires presidential candidates to provide proof of constitutional eligibility.

Two of the states' proposed bills contain additional eligibility requirements that trump a long-form birth certificate, even a pricey $100 souvenir version crafted by Hawaii lawmakers. The Arizona bill requires: "A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America." The Nebraska bill further requires that the candidate attest to three conditions on the day of his birth: he was subject only to the jurisdiction of the U.S., owed allegiance to no other country, and that both his mother and father were U.S. citizens.

Dual citizenship, a divided allegiance that experts contend the Constitution's framers sought to avoid for the Presidency, is a status created when the country of a child's birth (documented by a birth certificate) and the country of citizenship of the parents are in conflict. Obviously the Arizona and Nebraska legislators concerned themselves with crafting laws supporting the Constitution's finer points of eligibility rather than the sensational search for the missing long form.

Unless Obama pulls out a certificate listing a birth father other than the one Abercrombie remembers seeing him with as a child, or reneges on the assertion on his "Fight the Smears" campaign website that he had, until age 23, foreign citizenship from his Kenyan father, he won't qualify for the ballots in these two states.

A sitting US President won't qualify to be on the presidential ballot...What planet do you people live on to believe or have hope in such nonsense

This shows many republicans true feelings about the 2012 elections.You know none of the GOP contenders can beat Obama so you hope,wish and try to handicap the election by taking him off the ballot in 10 states.You people are truly a sad and pathetic bunch.

 

[bugscoe]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

A sitting US President won't qualify to be on the presidential ballot...What planet do you people live on to believe or have hope in such nonsense

This shows many republicans true feelings about the 2012 elections.You know none of the GOP contenders can beat Obama so you hope,wish and try to handicap the election by taking him off the ballot in 10 states.You people are truly a sad and pathetic bunch.

How about you show us what a fucking genius you are by providing a link showing the current law and/or regulation at federal and state level governments to vet presidential candidates?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

There are no federal conceal carry permit laws so that is not a good example.A driver's license would be a better example and guess what ? You can move from one state to another and switch drivers licenses

you can, but you have to re-apply each time you do so. you can't just go "here's my NJ driver's license, give me my TX one."

 

[good ole boy]

Quote from bugscoe:

10 of the United States -- controlling 107 Electoral College votes -- are now considering some type of legislation" that requires presidential candidates to provide proof of constitutional eligibility.

Two of the states' proposed bills contain additional eligibility requirements that trump a long-form birth certificate, even a pricey $100 souvenir version crafted by Hawaii lawmakers. The Arizona bill requires: "A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America." The Nebraska bill further requires that the candidate attest to three conditions on the day of his birth: he was subject only to the jurisdiction of the U.S., owed allegiance to no other country, and that both his mother and father were U.S. citizens.

Dual citizenship, a divided allegiance that experts contend the Constitution's framers sought to avoid for the Presidency, is a status created when the country of a child's birth (documented by a birth certificate) and the country of citizenship of the parents are in conflict. Obviously the Arizona and Nebraska legislators concerned themselves with crafting laws supporting the Constitution's finer points of eligibility rather than the sensational search for the missing long form.

Unless Obama pulls out a certificate listing a birth father other than the one Abercrombie remembers seeing him with as a child, or reneges on the assertion on his "Fight the Smears" campaign website that he had, until age 23, foreign citizenship from his Kenyan father, he won't qualify for the ballots in these two states.

Such a law would conflict with the constitution which prescribes
the eligibility requirement, which Obama has met. Courts would strike down such a law. It is doubtful those laws would pass in those states anyway.

Look, any state can cook up a law designed to disqualify any particular candidate, but it would be nugatory in the end.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from good ole boy:

Such a law would conflict with the constitution which prescribes
the eligibility requirement, which Obama has met. Courts would strike down such a law. It is doubtful those laws would pass in those states anyway.

Look, any state can cook up a law designed to disqualify any particular candidate, but it would be nugatory in the end.

I like your word, "nugatory", but you're wrong about Odumbo having "met" Constitutional requirements. He's only been "presumed" to have been met them... by a politically-motivated party... and all challenges have been turned away... likely with political motivation.

And states cannot "cook up a law designed to disqualify" a candidate which meets Constitutional requirements... that's just BS.

 

[bugscoe]

Quote from good ole boy:

Such a law would conflict with the constitution which prescribes
the eligibility requirement, which Obama has met. Courts would strike down such a law. It is doubtful those laws would pass in those states anyway.

Look, any state can cook up a law designed to disqualify any particular candidate, but it would be nugatory in the end.

What a dope.

How about you show the current law and/or regulation at federal and state level governments to vet presidential candidates?

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

you can, but you have to re-apply each time you do so. you can't just go "here's my NJ driver's license, give me my TX one."

Obviously you have to fill out some paperwork and pay a fee,point is Texas has to accept New Jerseys driver's licenses to get a Texes DL and Texas has to accept a persons Jerseys license to drive on Texas streets

Texas also has to accept a persons Jerseys or Hawaiis official state birth certificate to get a Texas DL or ID