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Birther Central - Trump Sends In The Investigators
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Basically, Trump is a Neocon warmonger with business sense.
His platform (from the O'reilly interview):
1) Obamacare - pro with cross-state insurance reform
2) Wallstreet regulation - opposed (deregulate)
3) Public sector unions - cryptic (deal with on a state-by-state basis)
4) Border security - militarize it
5) Amnesty - pro amnesty on a case-by-case basis
6) Abortion - pro-life
7) Gay marriage - opposed
8) Birther- pro
9) Economy - recognizes offshoring devastated American manufacturing
- supports 25% tariff against china if they don't allow the yuan to float
- cast china's growth story as parasitic hurting America
10) OPEC - 'intimidate them'. 105$ oil is 'unacceptable'
11) Tax code - simplify
12) Iraq - stay indefinitely to thwart Iranian takeover. "To the victors go the spoils" attitude. Keep the oil and let America run Iraq.
13) Libya - supports intervention, in theory. Fears the rebels might be aligned with Iran and Al Queda.
14) Iran - won't let them get a nuke.
15) Afghanistan - withdraw troops
16) Pakistan - withdraw financial aid until they deliver Osama. Intimated troops.
17) Military - won't cut the 1 trillion military budget. Would be the strongest military president "EVER".
Main theme: America is the victim. The world enjoys the fruits of our protection....and should pay for it. OPEC and China are the #1 abusers and need to be dealt with. Only a tough guy like Trump can handle it. Not a weak pussy, like Obama.
His platform (from the O'reilly interview):
1) Obamacare - pro with cross-state insurance reform
2) Wallstreet regulation - opposed (deregulate)
3) Public sector unions - cryptic (deal with on a state-by-state basis)
4) Border security - militarize it
5) Amnesty - pro amnesty on a case-by-case basis
6) Abortion - pro-life
7) Gay marriage - opposed
8) Birther- pro
9) Economy - recognizes offshoring devastated American manufacturing
- supports 25% tariff against china if they don't allow the yuan to float
- cast china's growth story as parasitic hurting America
10) OPEC - 'intimidate them'. 105$ oil is 'unacceptable'
11) Tax code - simplify
12) Iraq - stay indefinitely to thwart Iranian takeover. "To the victors go the spoils" attitude. Keep the oil and let America run Iraq.
13) Libya - supports intervention, in theory. Fears the rebels might be aligned with Iran and Al Queda.
14) Iran - won't let them get a nuke.
15) Afghanistan - withdraw troops
16) Pakistan - withdraw financial aid until they deliver Osama. Intimated troops.
17) Military - won't cut the 1 trillion military budget. Would be the strongest military president "EVER".
Main theme: America is the victim. The world enjoys the fruits of our protection....and should pay for it. OPEC and China are the #1 abusers and need to be dealt with. Only a tough guy like Trump can handle it. Not a weak pussy, like Obama.
Man, if (and that'd be a mighty big if) Trump gets the goods on The One, that'd be a fine indictment on what an incompetent leader He really is. He had all this time and resources to set up a perfect fake, set up people to take the fall if it were discovered, arrange backup plans and backup scapegoats, etc.
And if he didn't do that? Then the man is not qualified for any position of power or responsibility. Naive? Oh yeah. Ideological? You bet. Misinformed? Nod. Philosophical failure? Certainly. That flaming incompetent? I dunno. And no advisers to set him straight? Hard to believe.
Guess we'll see.
And if he didn't do that? Then the man is not qualified for any position of power or responsibility. Naive? Oh yeah. Ideological? You bet. Misinformed? Nod. Philosophical failure? Certainly. That flaming incompetent? I dunno. And no advisers to set him straight? Hard to believe.
Guess we'll see.
IF it is proven that obama is not legally able to be president, then the shakeout from this will last decades. even with the short memories of the public
i would expect the democratic party to all but be abandoned, that most black politicians would have to start attacking him or lose with voters, that the possibility of another black president would be dramatically reduced for many years, that the public at large would demand reforms in almost all areas of politics (if we were lucky term limits and direct election), that his wife would divorce him so that his kids would be protected from his disgrace.
that is but a start to what could happen...not a good situation at all...for him, his wife, the democratic party, the black race, politicians and especially not good for the country
i would expect the democratic party to all but be abandoned, that most black politicians would have to start attacking him or lose with voters, that the possibility of another black president would be dramatically reduced for many years, that the public at large would demand reforms in almost all areas of politics (if we were lucky term limits and direct election), that his wife would divorce him so that his kids would be protected from his disgrace.
that is but a start to what could happen...not a good situation at all...for him, his wife, the democratic party, the black race, politicians and especially not good for the country
Trump is way too smart to push this without knowing the story has merit. Get some popcorn Fellas, this is going to be gooooood!
Rennick out
Rennick out
Its funny how you some of you think Trump will actually find something,the guy doesn't even know what an official birth certificate is
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/trump-produced-birth-certificate-that-wasnt-official
Trump produced birth certificate that wasnât official
Real estate magnate Donald Trump thought he was really sticking it to Barack Obama yesterday by releasing his own birth certificate. The idea, of course, was for The Donald to show that he could easily obtain and show proof of his natural-born citizenship--something Obama hasn't done, according to Trump and those in the "birther" movement.
But now, reports indicate that the reality star's birth certificate wasn't the real deal.
The document Trump released to the conservative news site Newsmax was issued by the Jamaica Queens hospital where Trump was born. But official birth certificates for New York City are only issued by the city Department of Health, the Smoking Gun notes.
Politico's Maggie Haberman called city officials about Trump's document. They confirmed that a valid birth certificate from New York includes the Department of Health's seal and a signature from the city registrar. "City officials said it's not an official document," in reference to the paper that Trump released, Haberman reported via Ben Smith.
Trump, who is considering a 2012 presidential campaign, recently revealed he shares doubts held by "birthers"--those who incorrectly believe the president isn't a natural born citizen.
Trump boasted to Fox's Greta Van Susteren Monday: "Somebody asked to see my birth certificate, and I had it in my hands in less than an hour."
Of course, that was before this latest revelation about the status of Trump's document. Now it remains to be seen whether this self-proclaimed birther sympathizer will become the target of
conspiracy theories about the circumstances of his own birth.
UPDATE 12:30pm: Trump aide Michael Cohen told CNN that the release of the unofficial document instead of the official one was an oversight. "In order to rectify the oversight, I am sure he will either find his original birth certificate or order another one and release it," Cohen said. [/B]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/trump-produced-birth-certificate-that-wasnt-official
Trump produced birth certificate that wasnât official
Real estate magnate Donald Trump thought he was really sticking it to Barack Obama yesterday by releasing his own birth certificate. The idea, of course, was for The Donald to show that he could easily obtain and show proof of his natural-born citizenship--something Obama hasn't done, according to Trump and those in the "birther" movement.
But now, reports indicate that the reality star's birth certificate wasn't the real deal.
The document Trump released to the conservative news site Newsmax was issued by the Jamaica Queens hospital where Trump was born. But official birth certificates for New York City are only issued by the city Department of Health, the Smoking Gun notes.
Politico's Maggie Haberman called city officials about Trump's document. They confirmed that a valid birth certificate from New York includes the Department of Health's seal and a signature from the city registrar. "City officials said it's not an official document," in reference to the paper that Trump released, Haberman reported via Ben Smith.
Trump, who is considering a 2012 presidential campaign, recently revealed he shares doubts held by "birthers"--those who incorrectly believe the president isn't a natural born citizen.
Trump boasted to Fox's Greta Van Susteren Monday: "Somebody asked to see my birth certificate, and I had it in my hands in less than an hour."
Of course, that was before this latest revelation about the status of Trump's document. Now it remains to be seen whether this self-proclaimed birther sympathizer will become the target of
conspiracy theories about the circumstances of his own birth.
UPDATE 12:30pm: Trump aide Michael Cohen told CNN that the release of the unofficial document instead of the official one was an oversight. "In order to rectify the oversight, I am sure he will either find his original birth certificate or order another one and release it," Cohen said. [/B]
Aren't hospital records private information that cant be released ?
I find it kind of sad that this is the best many of you can hope for to get Obama out of office before 2016
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http://www.politicususa.com/en/nbc-donald-trump-birther
NBC Is Making Big Bucks Off Donald Trumpâs Birther Gimmick
On his MSNBC program The Last Word tonight, Lawrence OâDonnell called out his own network for profiting off of Donald Trumpâs morphing into a Obama birther. OâDonnell asked why MSNBC is employing a birther, âHow much hate do you have to promote as Donald Trump has promoted to get yourself kicked off of prime time NBC?â
OâDonnell said, âI want to take a look at the ratings chart for âThe Celebrity Apprentice.â Starts off below the 8 million mark. It also starts off low in the demo, the audience 18-49, 2.8. As he gets crazier, it goes straight up. Heâs now above a three in the demo, which is the number NBC cares about the most. It used to be on NBC in primetime you could get a show canceled off of NBC primetime if you fell below the 3.0. I know. It happened to me. But now that NBC is not the number one network, it desperately needs numbers like this. I have said all along that this fake campaign is about these numbers. Itâs the only way Trump could get attention to his show this time around. This was the way to pump up those numbers, and his paycheck from NBC.â
Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post joined OâDonnell and spoke about how Trump shamelessly plugs his show in each birther interview, âYeah, thereâs no denying that, you know, this dance that Trump is doing with the American people, with Republican primary voters, I think has everything to do with whatever his business interests are. âCelebrity Apprenticeâ is clearly a business interest of his, and in every interview he has done since playing footsie with the birthers. He mentions his show. I think people are hearing this guy and hearing what heâs saying and think, hey, letâs watch his show.â
This is America. People do all sorts of things to get attention, to make money. Unfortunately, by dabbling in the birther conspiracy theory, he is doing something more dangerous and more disgusting than making money for his company and for himself. He is ruining the public discourse. He is ruining, you know, trust in the person who is sitting in the Oval Office, which i think in the long run, if Donald Trump really cares about this country, he would cease and desist. Thereâs plenty of information out there, facts, which he continues to willingly ignore.â
Here is the ratings chart for Trumpâs NBC show:
Since Trump has gone birther, he has turned his âCelebrity Apprenticeâ into the top rated show in NBCâs prime time lineup. What does that mean for the network? A top rated program can charge advertisers twice as much than a show with average ratings. In short, NBC is making money from Trumpâs latest publicity stunt.
NBC, the network that conservatives and Fox News love to hold up as a puppet for Obama, is condoning Trumpâs birther nonsense because they are making money off of it. Not all of NBC has contentedly hopped on the birther train.
Tonight NBC Nightly News debunked Trumpâs birther claims:
Props to Lawrence OâDonnell for blasting his own network and asking why if Charlie Sheen got booted from CBS for being crazy does Donald Trump still have a job and a platform for his birther views at NBC, âI think weâre at the point now where Glenn Beck wears out his welcome at fox news over going crazy in these kinds of things. Charlie Sheen gets kicked off of CBS for saying crazy things. How crazy do you have to be, how many lies do you have to tell, about the President of the United States, how much hate do you have to promote as Donald Trump has promoted to get yourself kicked off of primetime NBC?â
What is the difference between what Glenn Beck and Charlie Sheen did, and what Donald Trump is doing? Trump isnât serious about running. He doesnât want to have to fill out the disclosure forms and reveal the truth about his literally paper empire.
Donald Trump watch Sarah Palinâs act and thought, if she can make millions, imagine what I can do. Tea Partiers and birthers are the most gullible audience in America. As long as a person mouths their buzzwords, they are rewarded with book sales, TV ratings, and if they are a candidate votes on Election Day.
Of course, they bought into Donald Trumpâs birther gimmick. Would you expect anything less from the same group of people who thought that Republican control of the House meant that they could repeal âObamacareâ?
If we really want to drive the point home to NBC that we will not tolerate their enabling of birthers, we should contact those companies that advertise on âCelebrity Apprentice.â If these same companies wouldnât advertise on Glenn Beckâs show, then they should not support Trumpâs birther campaign.
It is time that Donald Trump and NBC learned that the cost of being enabling a traitor to America and a slanderer of the President of the United States will be severe.
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NBC Is Making Big Bucks Off Donald Trumpâs Birther Gimmick
On his MSNBC program The Last Word tonight, Lawrence OâDonnell called out his own network for profiting off of Donald Trumpâs morphing into a Obama birther. OâDonnell asked why MSNBC is employing a birther, âHow much hate do you have to promote as Donald Trump has promoted to get yourself kicked off of prime time NBC?â
OâDonnell said, âI want to take a look at the ratings chart for âThe Celebrity Apprentice.â Starts off below the 8 million mark. It also starts off low in the demo, the audience 18-49, 2.8. As he gets crazier, it goes straight up. Heâs now above a three in the demo, which is the number NBC cares about the most. It used to be on NBC in primetime you could get a show canceled off of NBC primetime if you fell below the 3.0. I know. It happened to me. But now that NBC is not the number one network, it desperately needs numbers like this. I have said all along that this fake campaign is about these numbers. Itâs the only way Trump could get attention to his show this time around. This was the way to pump up those numbers, and his paycheck from NBC.â
Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post joined OâDonnell and spoke about how Trump shamelessly plugs his show in each birther interview, âYeah, thereâs no denying that, you know, this dance that Trump is doing with the American people, with Republican primary voters, I think has everything to do with whatever his business interests are. âCelebrity Apprenticeâ is clearly a business interest of his, and in every interview he has done since playing footsie with the birthers. He mentions his show. I think people are hearing this guy and hearing what heâs saying and think, hey, letâs watch his show.â
This is America. People do all sorts of things to get attention, to make money. Unfortunately, by dabbling in the birther conspiracy theory, he is doing something more dangerous and more disgusting than making money for his company and for himself. He is ruining the public discourse. He is ruining, you know, trust in the person who is sitting in the Oval Office, which i think in the long run, if Donald Trump really cares about this country, he would cease and desist. Thereâs plenty of information out there, facts, which he continues to willingly ignore.â
Here is the ratings chart for Trumpâs NBC show:
Since Trump has gone birther, he has turned his âCelebrity Apprenticeâ into the top rated show in NBCâs prime time lineup. What does that mean for the network? A top rated program can charge advertisers twice as much than a show with average ratings. In short, NBC is making money from Trumpâs latest publicity stunt.
NBC, the network that conservatives and Fox News love to hold up as a puppet for Obama, is condoning Trumpâs birther nonsense because they are making money off of it. Not all of NBC has contentedly hopped on the birther train.
Tonight NBC Nightly News debunked Trumpâs birther claims:
Props to Lawrence OâDonnell for blasting his own network and asking why if Charlie Sheen got booted from CBS for being crazy does Donald Trump still have a job and a platform for his birther views at NBC, âI think weâre at the point now where Glenn Beck wears out his welcome at fox news over going crazy in these kinds of things. Charlie Sheen gets kicked off of CBS for saying crazy things. How crazy do you have to be, how many lies do you have to tell, about the President of the United States, how much hate do you have to promote as Donald Trump has promoted to get yourself kicked off of primetime NBC?â
What is the difference between what Glenn Beck and Charlie Sheen did, and what Donald Trump is doing? Trump isnât serious about running. He doesnât want to have to fill out the disclosure forms and reveal the truth about his literally paper empire.
Donald Trump watch Sarah Palinâs act and thought, if she can make millions, imagine what I can do. Tea Partiers and birthers are the most gullible audience in America. As long as a person mouths their buzzwords, they are rewarded with book sales, TV ratings, and if they are a candidate votes on Election Day.
Of course, they bought into Donald Trumpâs birther gimmick. Would you expect anything less from the same group of people who thought that Republican control of the House meant that they could repeal âObamacareâ?
If we really want to drive the point home to NBC that we will not tolerate their enabling of birthers, we should contact those companies that advertise on âCelebrity Apprentice.â If these same companies wouldnât advertise on Glenn Beckâs show, then they should not support Trumpâs birther campaign.
It is time that Donald Trump and NBC learned that the cost of being enabling a traitor to America and a slanderer of the President of the United States will be severe.