Bipartisan board of elections refuses to certify NC house race

[gwb-trading]

There is no question there was fraud, compared to that, 'supporting' someone is absolutely timid


The Raleigh News & Observer looks at data on mail-in ballots in North Carolina’s 9th congressional district, where there are allegations of improperly collecting mail-in ballots and voters receiving mail-in ballots they did not request.

• Across the 9th district, 24% of the requested mail-in ballots were unreturned. In Robeson County, 64% of mail-in ballots requested did not make it back to elections officials. In Bladen County, the figure was 40%.
• The unreturned ballots are disproportionately associated with minority voters. More than 40% of the ballots requested by African Americans and more than 60% of those requested by American Indians did not make it back to elections officials. For white voters, that figure was just 17%.

NC Republicans are extremely corrupt, accusing others of bias is laughable after what they have done.

Well good... we want all voter fraud to be properly investigated and people indicted (if necessary). State/County prosecutors should handle the investigation and indictments of election fraud, not the politically-appointed biased state board of elections.

The State Board of Elections should confine themselves to their proper charter of defining election polling methods/operations, allowed equipment, standards for polling place accessibility, etc. - not investigating election fraud. The politically-appointed members of the State Board of Elections do not have the training, infrastructure, staffing, or basic law enforcement understanding to investigate election fraud -- which is why 100% (yes, a complete 100%) of their biased "investigations" in recent years have been overturned by courts - in some cases forcing changes in outcomes or new elections to be held.

BTW the left-leaning Raleigh News & Observer is the paper in our state that is screaming the loudest for the resignation of the chairman of the state elections board, his criminal indictment, and for the immediate dismissal of the entire state elections board. Plus investigation by proper prosecutors and law enforcement officials of the issues in the 9th Congressional district election. All of this, of course, is exactly what I have been stating in these threads.

 

[exGOPer]

Well good... we want all voter fraud to be properly investigated and people indicted (if necessary). State/County prosecutors should handle the investigation and indictments of election fraud, not the politically-appointed biased state board of elections.

The State Board of Elections should confine themselves to their proper charter of defining election polling methods/operations, allowed equipment, standards for polling place accessibility, etc. - not investigating election fraud. The politically-appointed members of the State Board of Elections do not have the training, infrastructure, staffing, or basic law enforcement understanding to investigate election fraud -- which is why 100% (yes, a complete 100%) of their biased "investigations" in recent years have been overturned by courts - in some cases forcing changes in outcomes or new elections to be held.

BTW the left-leaning Raleigh News & Observer is the paper in our state that is screaming the loudest for the resignation of the chairman of the state elections board, his criminal indictment, and for the immediate dismissal of the entire state elections board. Plus investigation by proper prosecutors and law enforcement officials of the issues in the 9th Congressional district election. All of this, of course, is exactly what I have been stating in these threads.

Without the state board flagging it, Republicans would have gotten away with it.

You seem to be more upset about a Democrat endorsing another Dem even if inappropriately than the large scale fraud that happened. Six Republicans got caught violating the Hatch Act, not a peep from any Republican here.

 

[gwb-trading]

Without the state board flagging it, Republicans would have gotten away with it.

You seem to be more upset about a Democrat endorsing another Dem even if inappropriately than the large scale fraud that happened. Six Republicans got caught violating the Hatch Act, not a peep from any Republican here.

Actually the state board did not flag it. The media in our state flagged it. Because this particular case involved a Republican winning the race the Democratic State Board of Elections picked up the case. Of course, while ignoring any cases of alleged election fraud where a Democrat won the race.

The chairman's behavior clearly violated the law. Any member of the State Elections Board cannot be seen as having any political bias. That is one of the primary requirements of the position. Furthermore he was warned multiple times that he was violating the law while tweeting etc. and did not give a flip (the Tweets were not deleted).

Six federal level Republicans were caught violating the Hatch act simply because their posts contained the term MAGA. All of these people immediately deleted their Twitter posts when this was brought to their attention. Very different situation then the chairman of the state election board in our state.

 

[exGOPer]

Actually the state board did not flag it. The media in our state flagged it. Because this particular case involved a Republican winning the race the Democratic State Board of Elections picked up the case. Of course, while ignoring any cases of alleged election fraud where a Democrat won the race.

The chairman's behavior clearly violated the law. Any member of the State Elections Board cannot be seen as having any political bias. That is one of the primary requirements of the position. Furthermore he was warned multiple times that he was violating the law while tweeting etc. and did not give a flip (the Tweets were not deleted).

Six federal level Republicans were caught violating the Hatch act simply because their posts contained the term MAGA. All of these people immediately deleted their Twitter posts when this was brought to their attention. Very different situation then the chairman of the state election board in our state.

You AGAIN seem to miss that the vote was 7-2 aka 2 Republicans also thought there was fraud, not to mention all the evidence we can publicly see.

Second, the chairman who resigned tweeted against Trump, he didn't say anything about local races but this was 'bias' in your book which should be criminally prosecuted while you make excuses for Republicans breaking the law and promoting Trump on twitter. Hilarious double standard.

 

[gwb-trading]

You AGAIN seem to miss that the vote was 7-2 aka 2 Republicans also thought there was fraud, not to mention all the evidence we can publicly see.

Second, the chairman who resigned tweeted against Trump, he didn't say anything about local races but this was 'bias' in your book which should be criminally prosecuted while you make excuses for Republicans breaking the law and promoting Trump on twitter. Hilarious double standard.

The chairman who resigned didn't only tweet against Trump, he tweeted many times supporting Democratic candidates and issues at a state/local level while demeaning their Republican opponents. When it was pointed out to him his Tweets violated the law - he did not take them down.

It is not only I who states the chairman needs to be prosecuted but nearly every newspaper in the state including of the left-leaning papers leading the effort demanding the chairman be prosecuted. The good news is that it appears the Wake County District Attorney's office lead by a Democrat appears to be moving forward with the prosecution this coming week.

Let's get this to this point again - there is not a single registered Republican appointed by Democratic Governor Cooper to the State Elections Board. Filling a slot "reserved" for a Republican is different from being a Republican.

BTW -- can you find me the minutes of who voted yes/no in the North Carolina State Election Board meeting? Wait you can't because they do not provide minutes or have any transparency -- which violates an entire set of open government laws.

 

[exGOPer]

The chairman who resigned didn't only tweet against Trump, he tweeted many times supporting Democratic candidates and issues at a state/local level while demeaning their Republican opponents. When it was pointed out to him his Tweets violated the law - he did not take them down..

Give me an example of these 'demeaning' tweets because that's not what the reporting says.

It is not only I who states the chairman needs to be prosecuted but nearly every newspaper in the state including of the left-leaning papers leading the effort demanding the chairman be prosecuted. The good news is that it appears the Wake County District Attorney's office lead by a Democrat appears to be moving forward with the prosecution this coming week.

Let's get this to this point again - there is not a single registered Republican appointed by Democratic Governor Cooper to the State Elections Board. Filling a slot "reserved" for a Republican is different from being a Republican.

BTW -- can you find me the minutes of who voted yes/no in the North Carolina State Election Board meeting? Wait you can't because they do not provide minutes or have any transparency -- which violates an entire set of open government laws.

This is the same pathetic argument Trump makes every time he is caught - I am not the criminal but the Dems are and they are biased and it's a witch hunt. Pathetic from you given how you keep crying about fraud but when a Republican gets caught, then you use the same 'bias' bullshit.

 

[gwb-trading]

Give me an example of these 'demeaning' tweets because that's not what the reporting says.



This is the same pathetic argument Trump makes every time he is caught - I am not the criminal but the Dems are and they are biased and it's a witch hunt. Pathetic from you given how you keep crying about fraud but when a Republican gets caught, then you use the same 'bias' bullshit.

Your typical re-direction away from the subject when you have no ground to stand on is amusing to watch.

Answer two questions:

• Do you want the allegations of election fraud in the 2018 NC 9th District Congressional race to be properly investigated and people indicted if fraud is found?
• What do you believe is the best government entity in North Carolina to properly investigate and drive indictments?

 

[exGOPer]

Your typical re-direction away from the subject when you have no ground to stand on is amusing to watch.

Answer two questions:

• Do you want the allegations of election fraud in the 2018 NC 9th District Congressional race to be properly investigated and people indicted if fraud is found?
• What do you believe is the best government entity in North Carolina to properly investigate and drive indictments?

Oh wow, I have no grounds to stand?

This is what you are calling 'criminal'

Hellwig’s complaint included 17 pages of examples of tweets the Raleigh lawyer has sent since Cooper appointed him to the board in March. In addition to negative comments about Trump, he tweeted criticism about Trump supporters, Sen. Ted Cruz, the constitutional amendmentestablishing an eight-member bipartisan State Board of Elections & Ethics Enforcement, and then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article222495590.html

Oh no, he 'criticized' Republicans for their bullshit, soooo criminal, he is the real criminal as opposed to the fraudsters in your party.

I don't care who investigates, I am pointing out that you are trying to bullshit everyone here by pretending that because the chairman resigned, it's an equivalence to the fraud that went on with NC Republicans.

 

[gwb-trading]

Oh wow, I have no grounds to stand?

This is what you are calling 'criminal'

Hellwig’s complaint included 17 pages of examples of tweets the Raleigh lawyer has sent since Cooper appointed him to the board in March. In addition to negative comments about Trump, he tweeted criticism about Trump supporters, Sen. Ted Cruz, the constitutional amendmentestablishing an eight-member bipartisan State Board of Elections & Ethics Enforcement, and then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article222495590.html

Oh no, he 'criticized' Republicans for their bullshit, soooo criminal, he is the real criminal as opposed to the fraudsters in your party.

I don't care who investigates, I am pointing out that you are trying to bullshit everyone here by pretending that because the chairman resigned, it's an equivalence to the fraud that went on with NC Republicans.

You are just re-directing again to push your political agenda and not answering the basic questions.

Bottom line is that this proves that you do not want voter fraud to be properly investigated and prosecuted.

You only accept an "investigation" when it involves a Kangaroo court which has no transparency or standards. And, of course, you only accept an investigation when it involves Republicans as the target.

Your bias is very obvious to any reasonable reader of this thread.

 

[exGOPer]

You are just re-directing again to push your political agenda and not answering the basic questions.

Bottom line is that this proves that you do not want voter fraud to be properly investigated and prosecuted.

You only accept an "investigation" when it involves a Kangaroo court which has no transparency or standards. And, of course, you only accept an investigation when it involves Republicans as the target.

Your bias is very obvious to any reasonable reader of this thread.

First of all, this is not voter fraud, this is electoral fraud which I have explained to you before but you still don't get it.

Second, I am open to ALL investigations, there is nothing stopping from the local DA to investigate while the state board does it's investigation as well.

Third, who cares about bias allegations? You guys complain about bias even in scientific research, it's what you guys do. The fact is that there is hard evidence of Republicans committing fraud and it's gonna come out because Dems are not powerless in NC unlike other red states where such shenanigans go on unchecked.