Billionaire investor on Elizabeth Warren as president: Market might not even open

[athlonmank8]

He didn't win by charisma, he won by Russian interference.

He won because the DNC nominated Hillary.

 

[tomorton]

Surely most of the rest of the world felt like me at the time, the two worst possible presidential contenders that could have been found.

I do feel for the Republicans, it would have been better long-term if Hillary had won, served one calamitous term and let the Republicans back into the White House for the next 3-4 terms at least as a backlash.

 

[gkishot]

I enjoy this one in particular because the asylum seekers in the south almost universally come from countries the US has raped and pillaged, replaced leaders, and let die. You do realize we are the reason "illegal immigration" from Central America is a problem right? Or do you not remember the contras?

We are all victims of existence.

 

[R1234]

That's good. Because at least he's realistic unlike the issues Elizabeth Warren are going to tackle and the way she's going to do it. Take other people's money and spend spend spend. There's no way that idea works. It's been tried and failed OVER and OVER. Free college is crazy (with the possible exception of community college). Student debt forgiveness is crazy. Yes healthcare needs work. But other than you don't actually think these are issues that are going to be fixed by throwing crazy amounts of money them at do you?

College students are financially inept and need a better understanding of the loans they're taking out and how they're going to pay it back. That's on them and the college. Going to a D-1 school and getting a degree in History is NOT going to work out well in the long run. I don't see why we have to spend our money to cover that kind of stupidity.

The student loan forgiveness and free college plan would never pass as a bill and Warren knows it. Its just the progressive mantra du jour that has to be mentioned in every debate. However her plan to get rid of health insurance or significantly marginalize it is a sound plan. This type of broken health care system does not exist in any other country and it needs overhauling. Self employed are getting screwed, paying more than $20k a year in premiums for high deductible plans that basically don't cover anything when you go see a doctor. And the corporate employees are no better off - they have a relatively smaller premium deducted from their paychecks but they pay another way - decreased wages and no pay raises. This is why corporate incomes in the USA are flat and decreasing in real terms - because the health insurance companies are sucking billions out of the economy every year. And old man Biden thinks everything is just fine with healthcare in its present form and that it is 'malarkey' to say otherwise.

 

[tomorton]

The student loan forgiveness and free college plan would never pass as a bill and Warren knows it. Its just the progressive mantra du jour that has to be mentioned in every debate. However her plan to get rid of health insurance or significantly marginalize it is a sound plan. This type of broken health care system does not exist in any other country and it needs overhauling. Self employed are getting screwed, paying more than $20k a year in premiums for high deductible plans that basically don't cover anything when you go see a doctor. And the corporate employees are no better off - they have a relatively smaller premium deducted from their paychecks but they pay another way - decreased wages and no pay raises. This is why corporate incomes in the USA are flat and decreasing in real terms - because the health insurance companies are sucking billions out of the economy every year. And old man Biden thinks everything is just fine with healthcare in its present form and that it is 'malarkey' to say otherwise.

Yes, US healthcare provision is a sad mess. But please don't hand over the country to Fidel Castro's grand-daughter just to get that put right.

 

[murray t turtle]

To the left, Obama is charismatic. To the right, Trump is charismatic. Bill Clinton, Bush, Reagan..... all likeable guys to at least half the audience.

I think it's safe to say even most lefties would find talking to Warren for a hour over a beer excruciating.

Outside of the Northeast and left coasts, Warren will not play well.

With that said, I think senile Biden will trounce her in the primaries.

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It may happen; but NOW we have the UKRAINE chickens coming home to roost against Senator Joe ''low IQ'' Biden.,

 

[athlonmank8]

The student loan forgiveness and free college plan would never pass as a bill and Warren knows it. Its just the progressive mantra du jour that has to be mentioned in every debate. However her plan to get rid of health insurance or significantly marginalize it is a sound plan. This type of broken health care system does not exist in any other country and it needs overhauling. Self employed are getting screwed, paying more than $20k a year in premiums for high deductible plans that basically don't cover anything when you go see a doctor. And the corporate employees are no better off - they have a relatively smaller premium deducted from their paychecks but they pay another way - decreased wages and no pay raises. This is why corporate incomes in the USA are flat and decreasing in real terms - because the health insurance companies are sucking billions out of the economy every year. And old man Biden thinks everything is just fine with healthcare in its present form and that it is 'malarkey' to say otherwise.

I agree.

 

[murray t turtle]

He won because the DNC nominated Hillary.

%% That;
+ she/screamer+brat ,seemed to have a special talent for getting people hating her LOL

 

[athlonmank8]

%% That;
+ she/screamer+brat ,seemed to have a special talent for getting people hating her LOL

lol

 

[piezoe]

What you are missing is that when Obama took office the market was in a VERY bad place. It would be like High School XYZ bragging that they do a better job of educating students than High School ABC because High School XYZ increased the graduation rate of their pupils by a whopping 100% (from 1% to 2% of the senior class), whereas High School ABC increased the graduation rate of their pupils during the same time period by only a measly 1% (from 99% to 100%). Personally, I would still rather have a child of mine attend High School ABC.

(I don't know what the market situation was like when Clinton took office, and I'm too lazy to look it up.)

The other thing you're missing is that prior to 2008 the Democrats weren't so entirely out of their freaking minds!

Wait, that's a bit offensive and I shouldn't speak so broadly, so let me be a bit more diplomatic. Prior to 2011, you didn't have a ; where socialism is a good thing even though it wrecks economies like those in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, North Korea, etc. (and has even infiltrated and inflicted pain on nations such as Greece and to a lesser extent, Spain); where capitalism is a bad thing even though it has been the bane of poverty worldwide; and where those promoting a fascist, totalitarian, politically correct, social justice agenda in which they tell everyone what they can or cannot buy, can or cannot think, can or cannot say, and can or cannot keep from the fruits of their own labor deem themselves to be the great protectors of democracy.

Fantasy world or not, the reality of the situation is that when you tell hard-working, industrious, wealth-generating capitalists that you are going to take most of their money, they are either going to stop working so hard or they are going to flee to other locations, taking their innovative ideas, productive work ethic, and piles of cash with them while they still have the chance, and this is NOT very likely to be good for our economy.

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This i found this response of yours to ETJ's post interesting. You began with a nice example of how superficial observations, especially using arguments based on ratios such as percent, can lead one astray; then you went on to violate the good lesson you just taught. Your examples chosen to illustrate how socialism wrecks capitalism* contain within them the same flaw of superficiality you nicely exposed in your previous argument. I'm left wondering if you didn't accidentally make a case for how capitalism can lead to despotism, or perhaps at least to desperate people. But that too doesn't hold up to closer inspection. There must be way more going on here then your superficial conclusion would suggest. Were you inadvertently giving us a clue to the poverty of your reasoning when you suggested the "...Democratic Party [is] headed up by a cohort of radical leftist progressives living in a fantasy world in which a man can become a woman simply by saying he's female."

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*All modern capitalist countries have mixed economies with both socialist and capitalist features. The U.S. is unquestionably the most capitalist, and also perhaps the most illogical, of all. Would looking around us allow the conclusion that socialism changes capitalism for the better? I don't know the answer to that question, but it is one we ought now, in this present election cycle, to be asking.