Bill de Blasio turns New York City into a shi@thole

Residents flee - don't plan on returning...

A mad rush for the exits as New York City goes down the tubes

https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/a-mad-rush-for-the-exits-as-new-york-city-goes-down-the-tubes/

It’s not just a few Upper West Siders who are fleeing New York: Moving companies say they’re swamped with calls from residents looking to ditch the city — even though the COVID crisis has waned.

One likely reason: The virus was but the last straw; New Yorkers are fed up with the shootings and lootings, homelessness on the streets, sub-par online schools, sky-high taxes and the sheer obliviousness of pols like Mayor Bill de Blasio and Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

On Sunday, The Post highlighted families who’ve given up on the Upper West Side — now teeming with junkies, the homeless, convicts and others — and are headed for greener pastures outside Gotham.

Meanwhile, Fox Business reports that moving companies are seeing a continuing surge in citywide business that began soon after the COVID outbreak. And while many of those fleeing may come from Manhattan, the trend is surely not confined to the Upper West Side.

It’s been “insanely busy,” Roadway Moving president Ross Sapir told Fox. Indeed, he says this has been the busiest summer ever for the company. “For the last three months, we couldn’t keep up with demand.”

Oz Moving says the number of relocations continues to rise at a “substantial rate.” It was booked to capacity earlier in the year than in any of the previous 27 years.

United Van Lines, too, cites a whopping 95 percent spike, year over year, in interest in moving out of Manhattan between May and July, versus just 19 percent nationally.

Sure, many of those who’ve headed out were merely trying to escape COVID, which socked the city in the spring. Some may even return; a reported spike in storage-space business is a sign they will.

Yet the fact that the rush for the exits continues to grow, even as new coronavirus cases have plummeted, suggests other reasons. Like the crime wave: The number of shootings per day, for instance, has doubled since last year. Other crimes are up, too.

City and state officials have fueled crime, setting inmates at jails and prisons free and handcuffing cops, and they refuse to do anything meaningful to roll it back. Prosecutors, too, are declining to prosecute. Judges are letting suspects walk.

Last month, Bronx Criminal Court Judge Jeanine Johnson released an illegal-immigrant rape suspect, on no bail. Last year, she let a convicted killer and reputed gangbanger walk bail-free after a gun bust.

Quality of life has plunged, as well. Even the owner of an Upper West Side hotel the city’s now using to house homeless derelicts has put his nearby mansion up for sale, as The Post reports Wednesday.

Lousy schools and even worse online classes provide yet another reason for folks to skedaddle.

Ditto for high taxes, which de Blasio — and fellow Democrats in the Legislature — are itching to raise even more.

And remember, the Escape From New York actually began long before the pandemic: Data last year, based on the 2018 Census, showed that the metro area was tops in the nation in net population loss, with 277 people leaving, on average, every day — twice the rate in 2017.

Take it all as a sad comment on the state of the city. And pray for a turnaround.


In addition to the collapse of the cities on the west and east coast, another subtle but real development I have noticed of late is people talking about how they had to drive across country (ie. pass through flyover country for the first time) as a result the hassle related to flying these days. I have heard outlandish things such as: "I met a lot of nice people."

It's good to get out and about. The notion that New York City and San Francisco are the Meccas of the New World is overrated a bit these days. Never thought I would live to see the day when people would be saying: "I was offered a job in San Francisco, but we decided to go to Boise instead" but it has been that way for quite a while. As it should be. Ditto of course for start-ups, not just jobs.
 
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NYC relocations accelerating at ‘substantial’ pace, local movers say
Moving experts say they have not been able to keep pace with demand
https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate/nyc-relocations-rise-substantial-rate

Even as the number of confirmed coronavirus cases has leveled off in recent weeks, moving companies say they remain inundated with requests from people leaving New York City.

Big Apple-based moving company Oz Moving, for example, told FOX Business that the volume of moves continues to rise at a “substantial rate” – in addition to a “drastic” spike in storage compared with years prior.

The company has seen an average increase in quote requests of 30 percent year over year.

By July 15 Oz Moving was booked to capacity for the remainder of the month, and while it is always busy over the summer, 2020 marked the first time in 27 years the company was unable to take on additional jobs so early on.

Similarly, Roadway Moving President Ross Sapir told FOX Business that it is the busiest summer he has ever had.

“Insanely busy and for the last 3 months we couldn’t keep up with the demand,” Sapir said.

To accommodate movers who have already left Manhattan, Oz Moving even recently introduced an “absentee move,” which employees can carry out when residents are not in their apartments.

The company said it is quickly becoming one of its most sought-after services.

Both Roadway Moving and Oz Moving told FOX Business in May that the pandemic had caused business to boom in New York City, describing a panicked flight out of the densely-populated metro.

Both continue to detail an exodus, and other statistics confirm heightened interest in leaving.

According to the most recent data from United Van Lines, between May and July there was a 95 percent year over year increase in interest in moving out of Manhattan. That compares with a 19 percent increase in moving interest in the U.S., overall.

The top destinations for people who moved out of New York City between March and August were Florida and California – which together comprised 28 percent of relocations. Texas and North Carolina made up 16 percent of moves.

New York’s Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo joked during a recent press conference that he has been bribing his friends to return to Manhattan with promises of free dinners and drinks.

“We’re trying to get people to come back,” Cuomo said. “They’re not coming back right now.”

Still, some local real estate experts say perception of the issue may be overblown.

Lindsay Barton Barrett, a real estate broker with Douglas Elliman, told FOX Business that some of the data and stories are skewed by the fact that in-person showings only recently resumed in Manhattan, while they were allowed in other areas weeks earlier.

“The reality is that there are always people in New York selling their homes and leaving,” Barrett said. “There are certain sectors of the market that are still active and other sectors of the market that are on hold.”

Barrett noted that some people may have temporarily left the city – with plans to return – which explains a dramatic spike in storage requests.

As previously reported by FOX Business, a big factor that may play into the Manhattan real estate recovery is whether schools reopen. Parents often relocate to be closer to their children’s school.
 
Little to nothing to do with his politics. Every economic crisis starts anew a flow of back-to-the-landers. Take a look at how many people are lately researching how to raise rabbits and grow food.
 
Little to nothing to do with his politics. Every economic crisis starts anew a flow of back-to-the-landers. Take a look at how many people are lately researching how to raise rabbits and grow food.

If people want rabbits they are welcome to come to my neighborhood; the wild rabbits are all over the place. They are eating everything in the flower/vegetable beds. I can go out any evening an easily see six or more from my front door. These rabbits are so un-fearful of humans that they don't want to go away when you go up to the and clap your hands; they simply will simply continue to eat -- glaring at you "like this is my flower bed now".

Where is Elmer Fudd when we need him.

Sadly there are few typical predators around suburbia for these rabbits (foxes, coyotes, etc.). Last year we had a slight problem; this year is a disaster.
 
If people want rabbits they are welcome to come to my neighborhood; the wild rabbits are all over the place. They are eating everything in the flower/vegetable beds. I can go out any evening an easily see six or more from my front door. These rabbits are so un-fearful of humans that they don't want to go away when you go up to the and clap your hands; they simply will simply continue to eat -- glaring at you "like this is my flower bed now".

Where is Elmer Fudd when we need him.

Sadly there are few typical predators around suburbia for these rabbits (foxes, coyotes, etc.). Last year we had a slight problem; this year is a disaster.

The "no discharge of firearms within city limits " factor has contributed to all of this.

You often/usually see more deer in cities now- who have colonized protected freeway medium strips and the like than you do in the country. You sit in your living room watching them eat your rose bushes, hoping for some time off to go deer hunting out in the puckerbrush in the fall, where you may or may not get your deer.

Crazy shiite. Where I grew up those rabbits would immediately get a chance to see my new grill up close and personal. And you know what? They have ways of replacing the ones you take.

And you can use a #4 or #6 load or .22 on them too, so that you don't have to cut into the buckshot you are saving for looters. It's all good.

:cool:
 
The "no discharge of firearms within city limits " factor has contributed to all of this.

You often/usually see more deer in cities now- who have colonized protected freeway medium strips and the like than you do in the country. You sit in your living room watching them eat your rose bushes, hoping for some time off to go deer hunting out in the puckerbrush in the fall, where you may or may not get your deer.

Crazy shiite. Where I grew up those rabbits would immediately get a chance to see my new grill up close and personal. And you know what? They have ways of replacing the ones you take.

And you can use a #4 or #6 load or .22 on them too, so that you don't have to cut into the buckshot you are saving for looters. It's all good.

:cool:

Yeah... we are not allowed to shoot or trap the rabbits within city limits.

We can hire a licensed trapper for the community who uses "no kill" traps.

I just rather someone catch/release some pairs of foxes in our community. :)

My proposals for a neighborhood hasenpfeffer cookout haven't gone real well -- some folks think the rabbits are "cute".
 
Yeah... we are not allowed to shoot or trap the rabbits within city limits.

We can hire a licensed trapper for the community who uses "no kill" traps.

I just rather someone catch/release some pairs of foxes in our community. :)

My proposals for a neighborhood hasenpfeffer cookout haven't gone real well -- some folks think the rabbits are "cute".

The cougars help a bit where I am but the old ladies complain that some of them attack the 65 feral cats they are feeding.

It's hard to please everyone.
 
The cougars help a bit where I am but the old ladies complain that some of them attack the 65 feral cats they are feeding.

It's hard to please everyone.

Foxes don't tend to attack family pets. Coyotes do --- in NC.

North Carolina has a difficult problem in rural areas with coyotes attacking livestock. Many NC rural counties have bounties on coyotes.

Our cougars in North Carolina are mainly found in city bars. :)
 
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