Bill Clinton: I should have better regulated derivatives

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

When you gotta wife who's one of the best Cattle futures traders alive then why rock the derivatives boat......


:D haha. Pabst, If Hillary had someone else do her trade in cattle, and she did not even have enough money to cover margin sometimes, I think that means she has no understanding of how it works. And her husband does not either. I think Bill Clinton have no idea what happened in the bill he signed for Commodities Futures Modernization Act.
 
Agreed. I was a psychology major in school and was shocked as to it's importance trading and markets in general. You really need to have a good grasp of the macro social theories.

perhaps this thread should be moved to the psychology forum. :p
 
Quote from walter4:


Clinton: I just disagree with him, but we have a different economic philosophy. For example,<i> there's 100 economic studies which show that you get a better return in terms of economic growth on extending unemployment benefits or investing money in energy conservation jobs </i>to improve buildings than you do giving people in my income group a tax cut.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/16/bill.clinton.qanda/

Wow, what a fucking idiot. Go back to read Labor Econ basic fundamentals. This statement is pure stupidity and shows an utter lack of credible research as a basis for his "regulation." I would have just laughed if I'd have heard this. Anyway, at least Obama increasing unemployment benefits by 20 weeks. This will put us at least 46 weeks off from recovery.
 
on paper these banks were audited on paper.

but the actual cash or movement of cash between banks and their divisions and accounts weren't enforced.

just look at madoff the brokerage business or market making business is 'regulated' but weakly enforced cause the auditors can't stop cash transfers.

Quote from walter4:

AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton was in Austin, Texas, over the weekend to host the Clinton Global Initiative University, which encourages college students and administrators to come up with creative ways to address global issues.

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CNN's John Roberts sat down with Clinton to ask him about how the Obama administration is performing, how his wife, Hillary Clinton, is doing as secretary of state, and what responsibility he may have for the current financial crisis.

John Roberts: Mr. President, in terms of the overall economic downturn, Time magazine had an article out this week in which it named 25 of the people most responsible for the economic downturn, and you were there. They, they had a picture of you in what looked like a police lineup. They had a little button where you could vote who's the most responsible? They pointed to your signing of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. I wonder what you think about that.

Former President Bill Clinton: I think that the only thing that our administration did or didn't do that we should have done is to try to set in motion some more formal regulation of the derivatives market. They're wrong in saying that the elimination of the Glass-Steagall division between banks and investment banks contributed to this. Investment banks were already...banks were already doing investment business and investment companies were already in the banking business. The bill I signed actually at least puts some standards there. And if you look at the evidence of the banks that have gotten in trouble, the ones that were most directly involved in there ... in a diversified portfolio tended to do better.

Some of the conservatives said that I was responsible because I enforced the Community Reinvestment Act, and they said that's what made all these subprime mortgages be issued. That's also false. The community banks, the people that loan their money in the community instead of buying these esoteric securities, they're doing quite well.

Roberts: So what's your take on what Sen. [John] McCain said, that [President] Obama is off to a terrible start?

Clinton: I just disagree with him, but we have a different economic philosophy. For example, there's 100 economic studies which show that you get a better return in terms of economic growth on extending unemployment benefits or investing money in energy conservation jobs to improve buildings than you do giving people in my income group a tax cut. But it doesn't stop them. Those guys are on automatic. You punch a button and they give the answer they give you. There are a lot of tax cuts in that bill -- for middle-class families, for lower-income families. There's a $7,500 tax credit that will kick in when these plug-in electric vehicles go on the market, which could help us to become the world's leader in that and secure us jobs for a decade or more.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/16/bill.clinton.qanda/
 
Quote from antitrust:

And greenspan still believes in a credit society

I would argue that he is the biggest reason for our current situation

Fed chairman HAS NO POWER. Find me one credible source where it states otherwise.

Once you get over the fact that the owners of the Fed make the decision, not the guy chosen to do a Public Relations job, then you can make a step forward.

It was during Greenspan's time that the specific cause of this financial meltdown occurred. The Fed started recognizing Level III assets and encouraged them.
 
There are no "specific causes". To say, blame, assign or otherwise is to appear....simple.



Quote from Anaconda:

Fed chairman HAS NO POWER. Find me one credible source where it states otherwise.

Once you get over the fact that the owners of the Fed make the decision, not the guy chosen to do a Public Relations job, then you can make a step forward.

It was during Greenspan's time that the specific cause of this financial meltdown occurred. The Fed started recognizing Level III assets and encouraged them.
 
Quote from Anaconda:

Fed chairman HAS NO POWER. Find me one credible source where it states otherwise.

Once you get over the fact that the owners of the Fed make the decision, not the guy chosen to do a Public Relations job, then you can make a step forward.

It was during Greenspan's time that the specific cause of this financial meltdown occurred. The Fed started recognizing Level III assets and encouraged them.

you are right my post should be amended instead of greenspan insert the fed and central banking system.

I guess I still love to kill the messenger
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

There are no "specific causes". To say, blame, assign or otherwise is to appear....simple.

yes there is, money isn't as complicated as you try to make it.

easy credit inflates asset prices. temporarily inflated housing and inflated stock prices adds no wealth so why would you want to do it.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

Anyway, at least Obama increasing unemployment benefits by 20 weeks. This will put us at least 46 weeks off from recovery.

You think increasing unemployment by 20 weeks puts off recovery by 46 weeks, am I reading you right.
 
You bible thumpers not over Bill Clinton yet? Reread this beatoff and have yourself a good laugh..............some pimple faced snot nosed kid still in diapers has it all figured out. TOO fucking funny. ET is a gas

ziradee


Registered: Sep 2007
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02-16-09 04:02 PM

Agreed. I was a psychology major in school and was shocked as to it's importance trading and markets in general. You really need to have a good grasp of the macro social theories.

:D
 
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