Bill Ackman Pershing Square Historical Performance

GotherL said:
Same guys who bought NFLX recently?
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Yes, he bought like 3MM NFLX shares on the dip for about $1BB position. And he promptly announced it on Twitter. AND he made his position known. Expecting others to follow him. Market manipulation. He is a master of it.

When Bill Ackman was fighting Herbalife HLF, he even paid some HLF former employees to do TV interviews to trash HLF. Then Carl Icahn took the long side and crushed Bill Ackman. To the end, Bill Ackman gave up. His loss was $1BB and Car's gain was $1BB.

Without Carl Icahn, Herbalife would have been crushed and Bill would go with probably $1BB gain....

Not sure if this is "smart", or market manipulation.
 
RedSun said:
When Bill Ackman was fighting Herbalife HLF, he even paid some HLF former employees to do TV interviews to trash HLF. Then Carl Icahn took the long side and crushed Bill Ackman. To the end, Bill Ackman gave up. His loss was $1BB and Car's gain was $1BB.

Without Carl Icahn, Herbalife would have been crushed and Bill would go with probably $1BB gain....

Not sure if this is "smart", or market manipulation.
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16 billion vs 3.1 Billion networth.

Seems to me he got target squeezed by a bigger whale.
 
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Carl Icahn (who went to same HS as I did FRHS, Queens, NY) made Ackman look not so smart gamma squeezing him on HLF, without any help from WSB - just his billions.

But an AUM of $13 billion plus says Ack is far smarter than any of US.

Now as for Icahn no one out talks him when it comes to their book.
 
I do not have the thick skin to get on TV to announce my HLF fraud theory. Or the legal resources to manipulate stock market.

I like fund managers with really good skills to pick stocks. But not as stubborn as Cathie Wood is. She is another market manipulator.

Most HF managers are like Jim Simons, who keeps a very low profile and does not talk about his stocks. He kept a black box.
 
RedSun said:
Yes, he bought like 3MM NFLX shares on the dip for about $1BB position. And he promptly announced it on Twitter. AND he made his position known. Expecting others to follow him. Market manipulation. He is a master of it.

When Bill Ackman was fighting Herbalife HLF, he even paid some HLF former employees to do TV interviews to trash HLF. Then Carl Icahn took the long side and crushed Bill Ackman. To the end, Bill Ackman gave up. His loss was $1BB and Car's gain was $1BB.

Without Carl Icahn, Herbalife would have been crushed and Bill would go with probably $1BB gain....

Not sure if this is "smart", or market manipulation.
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after he made 1bn betting on rates.
 
RedSun said:
It is not arbitrary. And it is not MY horizon. Pershing Square historical performance from 2014 is the official record. I did not add or cut anything.

Again, I have no time to spend more time to analyze different time horizon. Just a valid point that Pershing Square has not added any value from 2014.

As to how smart Bill Ackman is, that is the big question mark. How can anyone conclude that he is smarter than most of the other hedge fund managers. I do not believe that. He is no different from Cathie Wood. What Bill Ackman has is his publicity.

Most of the top hedge fund managers stay away from the spotlight. That does not make them less smarter.

Bill Ackman made a huge fool of himself on Herballife and Valeant Pharmaceuticals. Those are far from being any "smart".
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remember when he made 2.7bn on a 27mm investment?
 
RedSun said:
I do not have the thick skin to get on TV to announce my HLF fraud theory. Or the legal resources to manipulate stock market.

I like fund managers with really good skills to pick stocks. But not as stubborn as Cathie Wood is. She is another market manipulator.

Most HF managers are like Jim Simons, who keeps a very low profile and does not talk about his stocks. He kept a black box.
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Its not thick skin you are lacking.
 
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