Big increase in Unionization of US workers
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Unions protect the bottom of the barrel employees. The Lazy and Stupid.
The exact ones that should be shit canned.
Working hard isn’t rewarded since it’s all based on seniority.
F unions.
The exact ones that should be shit canned.
Working hard isn’t rewarded since it’s all based on seniority.
F unions.
My experience being in a union for awhile after college was not great. I paid dues and the other union people were not ones I would want working for me if it was my business. Our youngest had a similar experience when he was originally going into a trade. The guys who he was working with on the whole were slow, and lazy. One guy would show up at the jobsite when he wanted and leave when he wanted, and this was a person supposed to be mentoring my son. My son had enough of it and went to college.
There's an old saying, "companies that have unions, usually deserve them"
Overall, unions are terrible and maintain low performing employees.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/why-unions-are-harmful-to-workers
Overall, unions are terrible and maintain low performing employees.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/why-unions-are-harmful-to-workers
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a union job is a pain in the arse , i know a few State Organisers as i have had to come up against them... On the one hand they have to deal with usually a panic/manic driven union member for fear of losing their job(90% union members know they have f$%%ed up and they trying to get out of it) calling them at all hours of the day...and then they have to deal with Mgt...most union reps who work full time at it are Lawyers who want to run for parliment for Labor for eg ...unions make people lazy for sure and it promotes offshore manufacturing as costs go up. Unions were useful in help setting a certain Std of living many years ago but now are an obstacle to progress. Having said all of that, there are many useless managers who treat people like Sh$% and they deserve what they get and sometimes a Union is needed to correct/sack such poor creatures. lol...
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"I am alright jack." the slogan of British unionism turned the UK into the sick man of Europe. It was Margaret Thatcher who confronted the unions and turned Britain around.
The equivalent in America it was President Ronald who confronted the air controllers union.
Unions are basically extortion. The rational response of a person who feels that he is underpaid by his employer is to simply leave and go to a better job. In that case, the employer will be forced to settle for someone less qualified or reliable or be forced to pay more. They also destroy moral of working for the company by instilling a permanent us vs. the man mentality among the workers. If you want to keep a strong union, the union heads need to unite the workers against the company. So even after a conflict is resolved, many if not all the workers still harbor resentment against the company for the perceived injustice. I once saw a picket sign of a picketer in front of a grocery store (I wasn't planning to go to the store, but decided to stop in and buy something anyway to support the store) who claimed that the store was unjust, exploited workers, something to that effect...I was thinking of asking the guy, "Why they hell would you ever want to work for someone who you feel exploited you? Seriously. If they exploited you once, even if they eventually concede to your demands, how could you ever trust them again in good faith?" Of course, the real answer is that it's not exploitation, they simply think they can get more money by staging a walkout the weekend before Thanksgiving. And then they wonder why jobs get outsourced. Want to see exploitation? This is exploitation:
"Radio Free Asia (RFA) China posted a video early Friday morning showing an uprising of hundreds of workers who were angered with the continuous "closed-loop production" (which means they were kept on-site and quarantined to keep production humming) at the MacBook factory in Shanghai, owned by Taiwan's Quanta Computer Inc. The incident reportedly occurred Thursday evening."
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/a...e-factory-workers-clash-guards-over-lockdowns
And to a lesser degree, I feel sorry for the H1B visa holders from India...many having to wait a decade just to get a green card. Means that their employment options are limited since they need a sponsor and get kicked out of the country in 3 months unless they can find a sponsor. Meanwhile, US citizens are allowed to riot night after night back in 2020 and get immediately released by corrupt DAs who side with their political agenda.
"Radio Free Asia (RFA) China posted a video early Friday morning showing an uprising of hundreds of workers who were angered with the continuous "closed-loop production" (which means they were kept on-site and quarantined to keep production humming) at the MacBook factory in Shanghai, owned by Taiwan's Quanta Computer Inc. The incident reportedly occurred Thursday evening."
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/a...e-factory-workers-clash-guards-over-lockdowns
And to a lesser degree, I feel sorry for the H1B visa holders from India...many having to wait a decade just to get a green card. Means that their employment options are limited since they need a sponsor and get kicked out of the country in 3 months unless they can find a sponsor. Meanwhile, US citizens are allowed to riot night after night back in 2020 and get immediately released by corrupt DAs who side with their political agenda.
I wonder why unions work in German but in the UK & US they don't seem to work that well. It could be the culture of work in these countries are different. It could be that the heavy machinery that Germany exports is really a high skill profession helped by unions but low skill industries don't really create any value to anyone.
I know here in the US most of the industries that have unions usually end up badly except for the transport & telecom unions. The Teamsters union has not destroyed their companies. Public unions never work out since politicians who give them free stuff aren't around to watch the pension ponzi schemes collapse see for example Cook County in Illinois. Even FDR in the 1930s & 1940s specifically stated that public unions would destroy the finances of local governments.
I know here in the US most of the industries that have unions usually end up badly except for the transport & telecom unions. The Teamsters union has not destroyed their companies. Public unions never work out since politicians who give them free stuff aren't around to watch the pension ponzi schemes collapse see for example Cook County in Illinois. Even FDR in the 1930s & 1940s specifically stated that public unions would destroy the finances of local governments.
germany has a strong culture that you train for a job and that becomes your career, even at menial levels. That doesn’t exist in the US. No one joins an Amazon warehouse expecting to work there for life. In Germany, you would be an apprentice for 2 years before getting that role.
Yeah. That makes sense. I think US used to have that culture before the Reagan Revolution as well. I think the rise of LBOs in the late 1970s & 1980s helped to end that culture as well. All assets became financialized.