Biden's MU Variant

jem · Sep 9, 2021

That should have said it may be smart for the high risk but may not be as you get younger and healthier.

destriero · Sep 9, 2021

jem said:
Where was it first detected and where is it now?
The variant was first detected in Colombia in January 2021, where cases continue to rise....

How widespread is mu in the United States?
About 2,000 mu cases have been identified in the United States, so far, according to the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID), the largest database of novel coronavirus genome sequences in the world. Most cases have been recorded in California, Florida, Texas and New York, among others.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/03/mu-coronavirus-variant-explained/

Coming from a freak (jem) who is vaccinated but embracing the false flag of anti-vaxx personal freedom. It's the GOP's Mu variant. The world would be open if not for you tards.

jem · Sep 9, 2021

that is bullshit...

destriero said:
Coming from a freak (jem) who is vaccinated but embracing the false flag of anti-vaxx personal freedom. It's the GOP's Mu variant. The world would be open if not for you tards.

gwb-trading · Sep 9, 2021

jem said:
that is bullshit...

So jem -- just to be clear. You are denying you have been vaccinated for Covid-19?

jem · Sep 9, 2021

Is there a way we can prove it to you all so we can place wagers?

gwb-trading said:
So jem -- just to be clear. You are denying you have been vaccinated for Covid-19?

UsualName · Sep 9, 2021

jem said:
Bullshit...science and data should not be feared.. Just look at the way your team labeled science, fake news because it went against the narrative he was taught. Your team tries to eliminate thought and evaluation.

Its Orwellian. Critical thinking and real facts and real science are important...the narrative is dangerous.

with respect to vaccines....
So far... it seems for the high risk...it may not be smart as you get healthier and younger.
There are unknown future risks.

Personally I hope the Novavax vaccine, which is touted as being old school, handles variants well.

I honestly don’t care if you’re vaccinated or not but you need to understand the odds the Novavax is any more safe is actually less. Try to understand the Novavax will have preservatives and heavy metals in it, whereas the mRNA vaccines are salt, fat and mRNA frozen. Those are the things that cause most adverse events from vaccines.

Also, the stuff you’re claiming like ADE and reduced immunity can come from a subunit protein vaccine just the same - which is next to zero all around.

Buy1Sell2 · Sep 9, 2021

jem said:
its high risk vs low risk...

if you high risk you and your doctor agrees you should definitely get the vax in my opinion.

if you are low risk... the cost benefit ways against the vaccine as you get younger and healthier.

If you don't understand that... you do not understand the risks...

EXCELLENT AND ACCURATE POSTING

jem · Sep 9, 2021

all good points to consider... whether I already knew some of them or not... thanks.

but... I am not claiming we will get ADE. I am saying the science says it is a risk now that we have variants and see the vaccinated can get sick.

It is not necessarily next to zero... we don't have the ability to put probabilities on it. (from what I read in multiple sources including the NIH paper I posted.)

UsualName said:
I honestly don’t care if you’re vaccinated or not but you need to understand the odds the Novavax is any more safe is actually less. Try to understand the Novavax will have preservatives and heavy metals in it, whereas the mRNA vaccines are salt, fat and mRNA frozen. Those are the things that cause most adverse events from vaccines.

Also, the stuff you’re claiming like ADE and reduced immunity can come from a subunit protein vaccine just the same - which is next to zero all around.

Mercor · Sep 9, 2021

destriero said:
Coming from a freak (jem) who is vaccinated but embracing the false flag of anti-vaxx personal freedom. It's the GOP's Mu variant. The world would be open if not for you tards.

Do you blame the Colombia the orgin of MU, they are only 29% vaccinated...Is that because of GOP
Its Biden's failed vaccine program...He cant manage to help many communities with low vaccine rates and he is hoarding vaccines that would help countries

The United States is on track to have gathered an oversupply of hundreds of millions of coronavirus vaccine doses as soon as July, even while many countries in the developing world will have to wait years to vaccinate a majority of their populations, according to a report by the Duke Global Health Innovation Center.

BOGOTÁ—The last thing the world needs is another strain of COVID-19 to worry about, but the reality is it’s here and has already spread to 43 countries. This time, it’s from Colombia and is known as B1621 or the Mu variant, and is reported to be more resistant to vaccines and more contagious than other variants, representing a real concern in a country where only just over 29 percent of the population have been fully vaccinated.

UsualName · Sep 9, 2021

jem said:
all good points to consider... whether I already knew some of them or not... thanks.

but... I am not claiming we will get ADE. I am saying the science says it is risk now that we have variants and see the vaccinated can get sick.

It is not necessarily next to zero... we don't have the ability to put probabilities on it. (from what I read in multiple sources including the NIH paper I posted.)

Sure, the vaccinated can get sick but the science tells us the rate at which they get sick and severity of disease is much lower than the unvaccinated. Remember no vaccine is 100%. Fifty percent is considered good.