Biden's MU Variant

That is a model, moron....
"In this decision analytical model assessing"



not proof or even evidence of asymptomatic spread in real life.

So you misrepresent the first study and have nothing to say about the UChicago study. Laughable.

I expect you will also have nothing meaningful to say about the many other mainstream studies showing asymptomatic spread of Covid.
 
Jem:
"it's just a spicy flu, re-open! You're doing great harm to countless by shutting down!"

Also Jem:
"Seal the border! You're killing us!. Also, vaccines"

He's a complete mess and doesn't even realize he's definitely "high risk" now unless he gets vaccinated. It would be no surprise to anyone if he ended up in hospital whining about everyone but himself why he is there. He's been wrong about everything Covid the entire pandemic; a comedy of bad judgement, belief in conspiracy theories, and really bad attempts at data analysis. Basically just noise no point to it.
 
My goodness are you a fucking idiot... you just lies and lies and lies.
I have not misrepresented anything. I was very clear to say... last I checked... we have seen no evidence of asymptomatic spread...

and we still have not.



from your second link...



"In the first mathematical model"

So you misrepresent the first study and have nothing to say about the UChicago study. Laughable.

I expect you will also have nothing meaningful to say about the many other mainstream studies showing asymptomatic spread of Covid.
 
My goodness are you a fucking idiot... you just lies and lies and lies.
I have not misrepresented anything. I was very clear to say... last I checked... we have seen no evidence of asymptomatic spread...

and we still have not.



from your second link...



"In the first mathematical model"

Go Google -
asymptomatic Covid spread study

At this point your nonsense is a laughable joke.
 
I do not know... how bad it will get... I wish I knew or the experts new. I do not think anyone is claiming to know.... not since the vaccinated are getting sick and spreading.


I just understand that using vaccines in the middle of a pandemic to vaccinate and keep alive people who may have died or received natural immunity... opens up a far wider range of potential dangerous variant production.

Whether that happens a not, may not be quantifiable.

From the feverdream wood desk of Jem MacGnus.

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OK, he has us there..

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Last I checked we have never seen proof of asymptomatic spread via contact tracing of any statistically significant spread by asymptomatic people.... vaxxed or not vaxxed.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851

Now some like to confuse asymptomatic and pre symptomatic
and others liked to use models...

but we never saw statistically significant spread from those without symptoms show up in contact tracing. (last I checked)




Delta may be different... if you have any stats on asymptomatic spread.

No. However, there is some debate over asymptotic and pre-symptomatic spread in the unvaccinated.

Vaccinated persons have a different mechanism in that they may test positive but not be truly infected. Meaning the virus can fight for survival in the nose for some time in a vaccinated person and never actually infect the body. Now is that a false positive or non infection exposure. I don’t know.

And I get you’re going to bash me because it’s complicated and we are still trying to figure all of this out but that’s what it is. Breakthrough cases are still very low at this point considering they account for approximately 20% of all infections her in America, with the vast majority being mild.
 
No... it is complex. Plus our PCR tests are not able to tell us who is infectious.

Scientists have had a trouble identifying when people are infectious.

So... perhaps delta is different... from the first two waves and they can identify infrequent asymptomatic spread... but... I don't think they can be that precise.
Asymptomatic vs pre symptomatic is probably an imprecise threshold.

2. But... this is not a challenge... I wish to know...


Why are you saying that vaccinated vs unvaxxed have different mechanisms.
From very early on... science has said that in vitro some people's immune systems destroy the virus on contact in vitro... and that the less symptomatic you are the less you rely on antibodies...

so its very possible to have the remnants of virus in your nose...

but your immune system wiped it out so fast... that the difference between infected and non infected is only by definition...



No. However, there is some debate over asymptotic and pre-symptomatic spread in the unvaccinated.

Vaccinated persons have a different mechanism in that they may test positive but not be truly infected. Meaning the virus can fight for survival in the nose for some time in a vaccinated person and never actually infect the body. Now is that a false positive or non infection exposure. I don’t know.

And I get you’re going to bash me because it’s complicated and we are still trying to figure all of this out but that’s what it is. Breakthrough cases are still very low at this point considering they account for approximately 20% of all infections her in America, with the vast majority being mild.







COVID-19 is most transmissible 2 days before and 3 days after symptoms appear
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/08/210825113649.htm
 
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TRUMP: Covid deaths 352,000 WITH NO VACCINE until end
BIDEN: Covid deaths 258,000 WITH VACCINE

"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive. All the people. I'm not making this up. Just look at the data."

JOE BIDEN - CNN TOWN HALL SEPTEMBER 17, 2020
 
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