Bidenomics, baby!
- Thread starter Frederick Foresight
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Economic measures, seldom reported: Stock market at all time high, housing price is stable and appreciating nicely, wages are growing, unemployment is still near all time low, for hire signs everywhere, GDP is growing, national crime statistics are trending down, lately even inflation is getting under control.
Perceptions and in the news: The economy is in recession; inflation is out of control; homeless everywhere; people can't afford a house; companies are laying off left and right; people can't make ends meet, can't .... ; we are worst off than in 2020; illegal immigrants are running around everywhere, out of control; murders everywhere, crimes are rampant...
I think both are correct. The devil is in the details and in how the politicians want us to believe.
are there stats for this? housing is unaffordable and no one is selling. wages might be growing but if they didn't double over the last couple years no one can tell. Unemployment is at a low, number of people with multiple jobs at a high. And what are these jobs (cashier, janitor, waiter)? https://layoffs.fyi/ . Crime is trending down from all time highs I suppose. Inflation rate is going down but groceries are almost double from a few years ago
I wonder where the data is.
That's right! What matters economically is what happens in aggregate.
I am just a trader, not an economist.
If you want to prove me right, ask CNN
If you want to prove me wrong, ask Fox.
There are plenty of stats. What matters in politics, however, is not what is actually true but rather what is perceived as true. It is very easy to find out what is true and what isn't. However when we receive the wrong message from the right messenger we perceive the messenger to be telling the truth. So why would we bother to check to see if what we are told is actually true? We wouldn't; we won't; we don't. If we do check and find official data contradicting what we have been told by a messenger we perceive as reliable, we may assume the source of the actual truth to be corrupt and intentionally lying to us.
It is not surprising to find some of our most successful politicians, whose followers are cult-like in their devotion to their leader, have an uncanny ability to simplify their message and deliver it with the voice pitch and cadence that recalls the voice of our most financially successful, "Christian" evangelists. The messenger is the critical component if nonsense is to be pitched as truth.
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If the worst thing one can come up with is something the guy did 3 years ago I reckon he's doing pretty good. I never had to go back more than a week to find something a whole lot dumber that Trump did back in the day.
It's more than perception.
https://nypost.com/2024/01/20/metro...ds-are-using-this-nyc-park-as-their-bathroom/
NYC neighborhood turned into giant toilet as migrants litter park with poop, leave cups of urine on ‘doorsteps’
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Published Jan. 20, 2024, 1:20 p.m. ET
Migrants outside an East Village intake center have been crappy neighbors.
Since November, thousands of adult migrants have waited outside the former St. Brigid’s School on East 7th Street, and overflow into Tompkins Square Park, to score a bed in the city’s shelter system after their 30-day and 60-day stay limits expired.
But s–t hit the fan – and the sidewalks and streets – last week when the city Parks Department yanked a trio of Port-a-potties from the park.
The loos had become so filthy that workers gave up on maintaining them, according to locals.
“There was a cup of what I thought was somebody’s discarded hot chocolate that turned out to be not hot chocolate,” said street cleaner John Cashvan.
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“On warmer days, it can smell like a toilet over here — and not a well kept-toilet.”
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One migrant waiting for a shelter bed said he and others have been blocked from using the bathrooms at an East Village intake center.Helayne Seidman
In the past week, locals and volunteers said they’ve spotted cups filled with urine around the park’s entrance near the former school, along with human-sized poop in tree beds and between parked cars.
“Most of them want to pee in plastic cups rather than the ground, and they leave them on people’s door steps,” said longtime resident Garrett Rosso, 64, who said he spotted a dozen cups filled with urine.
One migrant had no problem taking an al fresco whiz on a tree Wednesday afternoon as The Post surveyed the stomach-churning scene.
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A street cleaner said he found a cup filled with human poop near where migrants have been congregating in the park.Helayne Seidman
The southeastern part of the park was also littered with spilled food and plastic containers.
“I’ve cut this part of the park out of my [daily] walk because of the filth,” said neighbor Michael Bartley, 73.
“There’s several thousand people [coming to] this end of the park with no place to use the bathroom.”
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Locals said the port-a-potties were removed last week because they had become too difficult to clean and maintian.Stefano Giovannini
“If they’re going to bring them here, [the city should] have some Sanitation people here,” he added. “Cops are here? Big f–king deal.”
Guardian Angels founder Curtis Sliwa, a former Lower East Side resident, ripped Mayor Adams for welcoming migrants with open arms, only for his administration to funnel them into neighborhoods without providing any clear aid or plans for handling the sudden influx of hundreds — or even thousands — of people.
“He’s the swagger man with no plan. Everything he does, it its a knee jerk reaction with no follow up,” Sliwa said.
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Since the port-a-potties were removed, locals said they’ve found cups filled with urine dotting the area.Stefano Giovannini
“What are you doing in the neighborhood to make it easier for them to absorb [the migrants]?”
Susan Stetzer, district manager for Community Board 3, said Parks workers removed the Tompkins Port-a-potties last week because they were being trashed “to the point they could not be maintained.”
The portable bathrooms were installed in Tompkins last year to provide relief while the park’s field house is undergoing an 18-month renovation.
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The southeast section of Tompkins had become so filthy that Michael Bartley said he cut it out of his daily walks.Helayne Seidman
“The bathrooms are an issue. We’ve tried to engage administration regarding this [but] we have not as of this moment been successful,” she said, adding that migrants continuing to congregate outside in freezing temperature was a “humanitarian crisis.”
The migrants, mostly from West Africa and South America and who are among the more than 100,000 who’ve been in the city’s care since spring 2022, said they’ve been blocked by intake center staff from using the building’s restrooms.
“When you want to go to the toilet [at the re-intake center], sometimes people tell you no,” said one man who gave his name as Abu Salim.
“You have to go out here.”
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A Parks spokesperson said port-a-potties are difficult to maintain and clean, but that a public restroom operated by the agency was available at McKinley Playground roughly 7 minutes away.
A spokesperson for the mayor’s office said they were aware about complaints regarding a lack of showers and bathrooms, but added that many migrants are choosing to line up when they do not have to.
Many are sleeping outside and standing on line despite space at short-term holding centers.
5When far-right, white nationalist "libertarian" Steve Bannon was casting about for someone to deliver the Republican party to him around a core message of government, "Deep State" corruption, he found it in a sing-song-voiced simpleton. A man of limited vocabulary and philosophically a tabula rasa. A man devoid of any moral compass. A man who would be Bannon's messenger. That man was Mr. Donald John Trump.
Bannon has described Trump as a "deeply flawed" individual. The flaws seem not to have damaged Trump's suitability as a messenger to minions of minimally educated Americans. If the recipients of the message, as delivered by TV Reality Star Trump under Bannon's direction, were neither politically active nor Republicans, it did not matter; they soon would be both! Mr. Trump would deliver Mr. Bannon's message (along with his personal side-show) to his MAGA crowds, and in turn the MAGA crowds would be unwittingly prepared to do Mr. Bannon's bidding, leaving Republican party regulars wondering what happened.
A multi-act drama is playing out before our eyes and ears. Unlike plays with a specified number of acts, the number of acts in this one is yet to be determined. The final scene is totally up for grabs.
Bannon has described Trump as a "deeply flawed" individual. The flaws seem not to have damaged Trump's suitability as a messenger to minions of minimally educated Americans. If the recipients of the message, as delivered by TV Reality Star Trump under Bannon's direction, were neither politically active nor Republicans, it did not matter; they soon would be both! Mr. Trump would deliver Mr. Bannon's message (along with his personal side-show) to his MAGA crowds, and in turn the MAGA crowds would be unwittingly prepared to do Mr. Bannon's bidding, leaving Republican party regulars wondering what happened.
A multi-act drama is playing out before our eyes and ears. Unlike plays with a specified number of acts, the number of acts in this one is yet to be determined. The final scene is totally up for grabs.