Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act Is this a joke?

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I am getting sick of this Obama lie that 95% will get a tax cut under him. He is proposing to classify welfare payments as tax rebates, even though the recipients paid no taxes. thus higher spending on welfare translates magically into a tax cut. Only the gullible media are dumb enough to swallow this.

The real question is, does anyone who actually pays tax get a cut under Obama? What do you think the answer is?

Obama only started claiming tax cuts a couple of weeks ago. I have not read exactly what he means, considering that up until then he was promising tax increases. But an editorial in the Wall Street Journal described them as tax credits, not cuts. Just FWIW, I'm not to familiar with it yet.
 
The problem with Biden's idiotic statement is that the government has a long track record of spending in excess of 100% of whatever tax revenues they get. Increasing the amount the government gets will only increase what they spend.

In any case, taxes should be designed to produce maximum revenues with minimal negative effects on the economy. As Reagan proved, lower taxes can produce a bigger economy that produces more tax revenues. The democrats like to call this trickle down economics. They seem to think sowing hatred against those who earn is the way to bring us together as a country.

To correct Biden, the patriotic approach is to foster a growing economy, which will provide jobs, opportunities and as a side effect, increased tax revenues.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I am getting sick of this Obama lie that 95% will get a tax cut under him. He is proposing to classify welfare payments as tax rebates, even though the recipients paid no taxes. thus higher spending on welfare translates magically into a tax cut. Only the gullible media are dumb enough to swallow this.

The real question is, does anyone who actually pays tax get a cut under Obama? What do you think the answer is?


AAA, i've already corrected you once on this. His tax policy isnt hard to find. You may or may not agree with it, but it is going to be a large CUT for the vast majority of americans.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

The problem with Biden's idiotic statement is that the government has a long track record of spending in excess of 100% of whatever tax revenues they get. Increasing the amount the government gets will only increase what they spend.

In any case, taxes should be designed to produce maximum revenues with minimal negative effects on the economy. As Reagan proved, lower taxes can produce a bigger economy that produces more tax revenues. The democrats like to call this trickle down economics. They seem to think sowing hatred against those who earn is the way to bring us together as a country.

To correct Biden, the patriotic approach is to foster a growing economy, which will provide jobs, opportunities and as a side effect, increased tax revenues.

Yep
 
Quote from Thermactor:

As bad as the right wing is, the left wing will make your life a living hell.


true, but its the blind biases that aren't helpful. On both sides.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Yep

Um, NOPE.

Reagan was a perfect example of government spending more than it took in. Under Reagan, certain payroll taxes even increased.

The budget mess left by Reagan forced his successor to break his promise of no new taxes. Under Clinton, the budget was finally "balanced". Steve Forbes and others predicted depression and disaster when Clinton raised taxes, but they were wrong.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

The problem with Biden's idiotic statement is that the government has a long track record of spending in excess of 100% of whatever tax revenues they get. Increasing the amount the government gets will only increase what they spend.

Ok, agreed. Maybe thats something that needs to..dare I say it...CHANGE

In any case, taxes should be designed to produce maximum revenues with minimal negative effects on the economy.

True. This subject is up for debate, but IMO, if you tax the rich (at a rate lower still than under clinton) they are still going to get on with their lives. Why? Because they can. It simply doesn't affect them near as much as it does the vast majority of this country, who is watching the bit of wealth they have wither away.

As Reagan proved, lower taxes can produce a bigger economy that produces more tax revenues. The democrats like to call this trickle down economics. They seem to think sowing hatred against those who earn is the way to bring us together as a country.

You should be careful comparing the economic environment of the 1980's to today. Have you ever read "the guns of august"? Times are drastically different and so are the challenges we are going to face.



To correct Biden, the patriotic approach is to foster a growing economy, which will provide jobs, opportunities and as a side effect, increased tax revenues.

Agreed. But how to do that is up for debate.
 
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