Biden 2020

TreeFrogTrader said:
unless Biden or Warren or someone like that is nominated.
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I do think you are either underestimating Biden’s appeal or over estimating his negatives. If Trump can get elected, brother, anyone can lol.

I think Biden wins the nomination, and I think he will defeat Trump.
 
NQurious said:
I think they are most familiar with Joe from Scranton.



The election eve polls had Hillary ahead in PA as well. I'm telling you that no matter what the polls say, there is no better way to get the reall feel for which way things will go here than to travel the state, and listen to people talk. I spend much of my summer criss crossing PA - I hit nearly every county every other year. Scranton-Wilkes BArre area and the surrounding counties really give one the pulse. Philly and the Philly Burbs - Montco, Chesco, Delaware and Bucks - they think they are the heart of the state. But they are wrong. There is Philly and its burnds, and Pittsburgh and its burbs ... and Kentucky in between them (some politician said this once and I'd credit him if I could remember who it was). But it is true - Blue collar, pro-labor, but conservative on social issue, pro-life, etc. Google it if you want to know lol

Here's a question: I think Trump stands to lose both PA and Michigan. Are there any states that Hillary won in 2016 that have a reasonable chance of flipping to Trump?
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The PA polls were wrong about Trump /Hillary but right about Obama/Romney and Obama/McCain as well as the 2018 PA governor and senate races so I don't totally dismiss them when they are right more than wrong.I agree Biden has the best chance of doing it as of now but he is making a lot of mistakes.

I think Trump stands to lose both PA and Michigan and also WI.I think he is also in danger of losing Arizona,TX and GA.

I don't think Trump flips any Hillary states but it does seem he will keep Ohio. He might keep FL depending on how much an effect ex felons being allowed to vote has.
 
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Tony Stark said:
The PA polls were wrong about Trump /Hillary but right about Obama/Romney and Obama/McCain as well as the 2018 PA governor and senate races so I don't totally dismiss them when they are right more than wrong.
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Polls that involve Trump are particularly suspect. Polls where the choice is between relatively normal, intelligent, civilized non-racist people will likely yield an accurate result. But include a volatile white nationalist would-be dictator who “hereby” declares his orders, and the inclusion of that individual will be as disruptive to accurate poll results as his presence has been disruptive to the world.
 
NQurious said:
I do think you are either underestimating Biden’s appeal or over estimating his negatives. If Trump can get elected, brother, anyone can lol.

I think Biden wins the nomination, and I think he will defeat Trump.
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If Biden is so brilliant then why is he a two time loser when running for President. Lets be honest, both time he ran he was never even considered a top tier candidate.
 
NQurious said:
Polls that involve Trump are particularly suspect. Polls where the choice is between relatively normal, intelligent, civilized non-racist people will likely yield an accurate result. But include a volatile white nationalist would-be dictator who “hereby” declares his orders, and the inclusion of that individual will be as disruptive to accurate poll results as his presence has been disruptive to the world.
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You are calling Trump a racist and yet you are slurping Joe Biden's knob. You trolls are something else.
 
wildchild said:
If Biden is so brilliant then why is he a two time loser when running for President. Lets be honest, both time he ran he was never even considered a top tier candidate.
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No lie there.

He never broke 1% in any primary in either of his previous runs.

Probably one of our Google Scholars can google around and find 1.5% somewhere and that will be their thing to be right about for the week. Go for it. Let's see it.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
No lie there.

He never broke 1% in any primary in either of his previous runs.

Probably one of our Google Scholars can google around and find 1.5% somewhere and that will be their thing to be right about for the week. Go for it. Let's see it.
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He wasn't Obamas former VP in those prior runs eithier.
 
wildchild said:
If Biden is so brilliant then why is he a two time loser when running for President. Lets be honest, both time he ran he was never even considered a top tier candidate.
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We’re talking about which Dem is best positioned to beat a Trump. Never said Biden was brilliant.
 
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