Bible cant be true because of million year old fossils/carbon dating...right?

Quote from stu:

Out of 809 Nobel Laureates since 1901 only 50 are listed as being associated with religion. That includes those whose association is simply being Jewish! Non of course were awarded the nobel prize for anything whatsoever to do with religion /Creator / God.

Using your own childlike comparisons , 94% of Nobel Prize Winner faculty members are not sane and "pick stu".


to borrow from the post above you are an academic piece of shit.

I do not use nobel laureates to argue that there is a God.

I use nobel laureates to argue that you stu are are fool for asserting that there is no God.

Only an academic piece of shit like you would reverse the argument.
 
Quote from jem:

to borrow from the post above you are an academic piece of shit.

I do not use nobel laureates to argue that there is a God.

I use nobel laureates to argue that you stu are are fool for asserting that there is no God.

Only an academic piece of shit like you would reverse the argument.
You can't use Nobel laureates to argue - period. You have no argument to begin with.

You post what appear to be a few personal thoughts of a prize winner and then from behind it , you seem to believe you have earned some right or have some sort of credibility to call people a piece of shit . That's a delusion you have, not an argument.

Any personal views of any scientist Nobel or not, are not grounds for claiming anyone who does not agree with those personal views are either a fool or a piece of shit.

It may be the arrangement you have with your priest that you call people a piece of shit, whenever you come across those who don’t suffer from your religious psychosis, but fortunately there is a tad more rationality and tolerance for sensible argument in the real world. Especially so in Science.
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

This is a major arguement for atheists. This is their "scientific proof" that makes the bible obsolete.

When you get tired of reading all the inconsistancies and and lies of the evolutionists and wish to know the truth, pick up the bible, as the word of God will never fail you the way man does.

The bible isnt obsolete.
It's just fucking retarded.

Because it does not reflect mans reality.
Hence, it reflects nothing about humans innate spirituality.

ie, mankinds innumerable "gods".

Note the plural, and what it means.
 
Quote from TraderZones:


People who believe the Bible do not particularly agree to "The people who wrote the Bible believed what they were writing to be true" Either God was the author through prophets & apostles, or it really doesn't matter.

As I understand it there are varying positions within the christian faith regarding this: Some are of the position that the Bible is a series of narratives written by real (and imperfect) men over a long period of time, and it is these to which my point refers - given the advancements in science, technology and understanding, it seems sensible (to me, at least) that the errors / misjudgements of the authors can be acknowledged without compromising the legitimacy of the messages and lessons that the authors are aiming to teach.

Others who believe that the Bible is the direct word of God - well, for those who believe this to be the case, I can understand the will to defend claims from Science that what is stated in the Bible simply cannot be true.


But you also need to realize, "we have the science to prove this" is a gross overstatement of current scientific knowledge.

We do have the science to prove the claims that the world is 6,000 years old are false.

And "believers" who give dates for the origin of the earth via Creationism are giving their view. Many of us are theistic evolutionists who have no probelm with a 4.6 billion year old Earth.

Pardon my ignorance, but I had to Google "theistic evolutionists" - and from the VERY brief introduction, I can't see why that view cannot be the case.


It has nothing to do with human beliefs. If the book was written by just "people" then it is relatively worthless.

I disagree. There are lessons in the Bible that are good to learn for their own sake - the good samaritan, forgiveness, and so on. These are worthwhile in their own right.

If it was written by God, then the feeble methods of modern scientists compared to God is not an issue.

The methods of modern scientists are corporeal, and have shown that they can be used to further an understanding of the behaviour of the world around us.

It doesn't matter who wrote the Bible, there are still things that are written that we can say are false. The tangible science shows this, while the argument that science is wrong - because God is greater than science - is made up of intangibles and conjecture. It is this last point that really makes the difference IMO - no matter how conclusive the evidence, one will always be able to retort "but that is nothing compared to God", just like scientists will always ask "why?".
 
Go fuck yourself, and choke out that shitty everlasting turd untill it chokes you to death.

Its in the scripture.... you have a god given duty to die a horrible death, at your own hand , because you were wrong. Pentacostals, catholics, presbyterians, anglicans, just all DIE already, because you were all wrong.

Wrong, baby , wrong.
 
Stu you are an academic piece of shit because your argument is a piece of shit.

You can not prove there is no God.

I use statements of famous scientists to support that point.
 
Quote from jem:
Stu you are an academic piece of shit because your argument is a piece of shit.
Your ability to formulate such eloquent thoughts must make your family really proud.
Quote from jem:
You can not prove there is no God.
I can prove there is no God . You cannot prove I can't.
Quote from jem:
I use statements of famous scientists to support that point.
You used some supposed statement of a scientist that has nothing to do with science .
 
Quote from Barth Vader:

OK, I'll bite.............prove away !
READ IT PROPERLY Barth dude!!

silver tongued jem says I cannot prove there is no God.
Have you heard about proving negatives Barth?

If not then I'll just do what he does....and I'll ask you to prove a negative too...

I can prove there is no God . You cannot prove I can't.

duh!
 
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