Beyond the hype of hershey futures method journal

Quote from Index Maximus:

Hi RoughTrader,

Grob109 = Jack Hershey

here is a programmable form of trading which hershey devised:
quote grob109:
Description:

Indicators define rockets. The indicator values are determined by considering one clear major factor. That is: building wealth at no risk. All the indicators are designed for integration over a spectrum of fractals. Concurrently they are designed for the skill level of the user. Beginners need the highest protection against failure and secondly losses. The other side of the coin provides two central trader themes that are absolute requirements continuing reinforcing success and continuing display of the NLP pictures that lay the foundation consistent decision making excellence

Rockets appear daily. They are fast paced trends. Beginners enter rockets after the FBO period. The digits 13 and 14 in the indicators assure this. Making the slow line on the Stochastic pass out side the 20/80 band further assures we are past FBO. Requiring a minimum money velocity at the inception of the trend, assures that the physics concept of momentum is at play. The design of MACD as a 5, 13, 6 configuration assures this and one other significant consideration: preventing indicator bridging. The original designer defaults were done before PC’s and the advent of PC’s significantly affected market operations. This shift caused most indicators to bridge.

Rocketeers are kept in trades until risk reappears. You see that the right channel line BO and the failure of the slow stochastic are concurrent.

I have done the illustration in a manner that rocketeers can see how icebergers are trading as well. There are four levels of iceberging. Each includes more risk and more profits.

Rocketeers enter on B and exit on C. They see the trend begin and then the indicators fall in place. MACD, then volume, then fast and slow line of the slow stochastic. Entry at 1046.3. The stochastic “entwines” until C. Exit at about 1040.2. Profit 6.1 less costs.

The four levels of Icebergers exist. Level IV enters on 50% crossover with divergence of the fast stochastic lines. See A. This is earlier and higher risk. Level I’s enter as do racketeers. Levels II and III enter using the rocket rules on the fast stochastic (5, 2, 3).



Levels I and II exit at E when the fast stochastic comes out the other side of the 20/80. Level II’s reverse at E into a long trade. Level IV’s reverse at D on the 50% where lines are divergent.

Point x shows a successful 50% cross over with divergence that fails. This affects only level IV’s; they go long on the divergence and reverse back into short as the divergence fails (convergence and x=over sequence). See FR.



EXECUTION

The following text is oriented to execution. Execution has four parts:
Data Gathering to assure you have considered all factors and to assure you have associated the go/no go criteria with each and every factor. This absolutely destroys the NLP picture of using signals to trade; concurrently it builds the picture that the total salient market conditions must be considered at all times.
Analysis sorts out and combines all aspects of the data set to obtain a “go’ if and only if, the criteria is met. This is an intellectual process.
Decision making. Decisions are based upon beliefs. Beginners have an awesome difficulty with which to deal. Their beliefs come from the past and are founded on all segments of their past lives. The Tony Robbins stuff can create quite a disparity just as parental Rich Dad, Poor Dad factors can. Parents also convey as “money as religion” themes of ethics and morals. Beginners have to create their personal NLP pictures for investing and trading. First, this strategy provides repeated provisional pictures based on rational logic. Repeated success allows the new provisional pictures to hold more sway in the person’s make up. A process is unfolding. By setting holistic pervasive criteria for trading rockets, the traders learns to share responsibility with the market and he learns to not step over the line and usurp responsibilities accorded only to the market. Pictures infill and become comprehensive enough to assure a routine of extracting the capital offered and available form the market. This foundation cannot be eroded. Lastly, one final initial picture is built as a beginner. Initial capital is removed when the beginner has made 120 points in the ES. This is a tripling of the 2000 nominal margin for one contract, the maximum # of contracts tradable in the beginner mode.
Action results with entries and exits. Using the results of a decision based upon the congruence of beliefs and analysis results, causes trading actions. They are swift and decisive and correct.

A. Data Gathering

Price: No Criteria
Volume: Band B (10 to 12K) or better.
MACD: The histogram has to show a divergence of = or > than the absolute value of 0.4. This means, for long trends +0.4 and for short trends -0.4. This value is an initiating value only. It does not have to be maintained nor does it’s absence dictate an exit.
Slow Stochastic (14, 1, 3) Fast and slow lines out side the 20/80. Variations: use 25/75, use end of bar only measurements. Both variations are higher risk.
Other Formations: Any prior formations may exist. Rockets form channels; use the channel report to carry out any of all the channel possibilities.

B. Analysis

KEY ELEMENT: All criteria of data gathering must be met. They are achieved in a sequence that is not predetermined. The last one arriving in time gates the decision and action for entry.

Monitoring continues. During monitoring the exit is determined by the slow stochastic. The least risk exit occurs when the fast line goes inside 20/80. Any continuation of the hold on the rocket is terminated when the slow line goes inside the 20/80. Variations: use end of bar measurements.

C. NLP Decision Making

A “go” from analysis is reinforced by NLP pictures saying that rockets are valid for making money using the entry and exit rules. The market provides the circumstance through measurements of indicators.

Action

Beginner: Come off sidelines and trade one contract.

Intermediates: Confirm your iceberg entry and determine that the iceberg is now operating at low risk.

SCT. Follow SCT rules as superceding rocket rules.


This setup precedes SCT.

Maybe you can see what happens when you run this one mechanically.

Awesome, thanks for the post. I'll dig into this some more. Right now I am making very good progress coding tapes and channels. It's actually not straight-forward as the channels need to be adjusted depending on how the tape moves.

RoughTrader
 
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Awesome, thanks for the post. I'll dig into this some more. Right now I am making very good progress coding tapes and channels. It's actually not straight-forward as the channels need to be adjusted depending on how the tape moves.

RoughTrader

Index Maximus is a hackler.

I have done a search and cannot find this post by Grob109.

I wouldn't take the post seriously.
 
Thanks for all the input guys. My work doesn't move that fast though. First tapes and channels. I am making sure to spend time to make sure the code captures the correct method of construction.

RoughTrader
 
Here is a specific drill which Grob109 recommends for trading any index contract. It stays in the market continuously, i.e. SCT throughout the day and switches sides periodically.

from Jack Hershey Jun 2 2000, 3:00 am show options
Newsgroups: misc.invest.technical
From: "Jack Hershey"
Date: 2000/06/02
Subject: 30 minute warmup bar trading.

Fundamental Money Making Concepts.

I use simple mechanical systems to get people to understand the basic
concept of making money steadily and with little or no risk.

When you trade daily for 6 1/2 hours a key thing to consider is not doing
too much to make some money.

By choosing a futures index of any sort on any exchange in the world, you
have put yourself, for 6 1/2 hours a day in a place that is truly dull and
unexciting. Being there is fairly safe and not too demanding so you can
relax and repeat a few tasks over and over to make some money.

I work first with 30 minute bars to frankly eliminate any sense of urgency.
I use the prior days last bar to get the ball rolling, or I suggest you wait
until the second begins to eliminate the end effects of the market.

Here is a progression of four mechanical methods to illustrate making money
primarily and secondarily to illustrate that losses are neatly reduced more
and more as a little sophistication enters the picture. I also introduce
how in a trend you can switch to the most favorable side of the channel to
exit. Because this is very simple and mechanical there is no need to
clutter it with a stop system as yet mostly because it an index tied to the
performance of and aggregation of stocks. We can tuck stops in easily
though as a commitment to our ordinary discipline.

The four items in the progression are:

1. break out of prior bar.
2. slope pairs of bars.
3. overlapped pairs slopes
4. retracement.

Here is the progression:

1. set up a 30 bar display for a futures index.
2. enter on the breakout beyond (above or below) the prior days last bar
hi/lo.
3. hold until the current bar breaks out of the other end (from your long or
short entry) of the prior bar.
4. hold on inside bars.
5. hold on successive bar break outs in the same trend.
6. on breakout of 3., reverse so you can take on new trend trade.
7. repeat 3. through 6. for remaining bars of the day.
8. settle at end of day.

RoughTrader you could probably code this one up in about 5 minutes on Tradestation.
 
Quote from Index Maximus:

Here is a specific drill which Grob109 recommends for trading any index contract. It stays in the market continuously, i.e. SCT throughout the day and switches sides periodically.

from Jack Hershey Jun 2 2000, 3:00 am show options
Newsgroups: misc.invest.technical
From: "Jack Hershey"
Date: 2000/06/02
Subject: 30 minute warmup bar trading.

Fundamental Money Making Concepts.

I use simple mechanical systems to get people to understand the basic
concept of making money steadily and with little or no risk.

When you trade daily for 6 1/2 hours a key thing to consider is not doing
too much to make some money.

By choosing a futures index of any sort on any exchange in the world, you
have put yourself, for 6 1/2 hours a day in a place that is truly dull and
unexciting. Being there is fairly safe and not too demanding so you can
relax and repeat a few tasks over and over to make some money.

I work first with 30 minute bars to frankly eliminate any sense of urgency.
I use the prior days last bar to get the ball rolling, or I suggest you wait
until the second begins to eliminate the end effects of the market.

Here is a progression of four mechanical methods to illustrate making money
primarily and secondarily to illustrate that losses are neatly reduced more
and more as a little sophistication enters the picture. I also introduce
how in a trend you can switch to the most favorable side of the channel to
exit. Because this is very simple and mechanical there is no need to
clutter it with a stop system as yet mostly because it an index tied to the
performance of and aggregation of stocks. We can tuck stops in easily
though as a commitment to our ordinary discipline.

The four items in the progression are:

1. break out of prior bar.
2. slope pairs of bars.
3. overlapped pairs slopes
4. retracement.

Here is the progression:

1. set up a 30 bar display for a futures index.
2. enter on the breakout beyond (above or below) the prior days last bar
hi/lo.
3. hold until the current bar breaks out of the other end (from your long or
short entry) of the prior bar.
4. hold on inside bars.
5. hold on successive bar break outs in the same trend.
6. on breakout of 3., reverse so you can take on new trend trade.
7. repeat 3. through 6. for remaining bars of the day.
8. settle at end of day.

RoughTrader you could probably code this one up in about 5 minutes on Tradestation.

Yes, it's quite easy using stop orders. I doubt it would be profitable though. I'll code it quick and post the results.

RoughTrader
 
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