Best Trader of All-Time
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IMO this is the most logical way to rank trading success:
1. Make a list of everyone who has been trading for at least 10 years regardless of fund size
2. Remove anyone who has blown up even once from that list. Blowing up means losing >= 100% of one's funds or such a high proportion that further trading is not possible.
3. Rank in order of average annual return.
1. Make a list of everyone who has been trading for at least 10 years regardless of fund size
2. Remove anyone who has blown up even once from that list. Blowing up means losing >= 100% of one's funds or such a high proportion that further trading is not possible.
3. Rank in order of average annual return.
Quote from Agassi:
And here is my list
1) Jesse Livermore
2) Rakesh JhunJhunwalla
3) Richard Wyckoff
4) Bruce Kovner
6) Flipper AKA Paul Rotter
5) thers is some european guy 33 years old making $30 Million on ICE trading power. who knows his name?
6) John Arnhold (is he trading on inside information???)
7) Tim Knight
8) Red_Ink
9) Lescor
10) Anekdoten
11) SusanaDT
12) bespoke
13) Robert Weinstein
14) And of course ME ME ME ME. if u count "couldhave, wouldhave, shouldhave"
This is very subjective.
Subjective? I wonder if John Henry and Richard Dennis would be interested to know that their career achievements to date have been surpassed by several public message-board alumni.
No one can predict where natural gas is going to the exact penny, your post suggests some ignorance of that market on your part. Any energy trader knows who he is, and most traders in general are familiar with the Forbe's list youngest (self-made) billionaire. I have not heard anyone suggest he trades on inside information and am curious where you came up with that. You also misspelled his name, it's John Arnold.
Remember the incident where the other hedge fund blow up? Amaranth? it was widely believed that money just got transferred from Amaranth to Arnhold...point is that they both were on the opposite side of the trade. And when Amaranth was finally forced to unwind, the top trader from Amaranth called John Arnhold and they didn't agree on the price. The price that John Arnhold quoted was EXTREMELY CLOSE...to pennies. And John predicted this a few months ahead of time. Haven't you seen the Enron documentary? didn't u know that other traders (noth John) purposely shut off the electricity so the prices went up? all this info is publicly available on google. I made my statements based on publicly available information. But of course, john was not involved on any ofthe enron scams. but how can any one make such accurate predictions? Please enlighten me.
JA was not within cents of BH trade but was in a range given his own call. So BH trade did not or could not alter his own call.
For instance, if you were selling a 95 Honda Civic for 5k and given my own exp of buying/selling 95 Honda Civics said the real vaule should be 4300-4500. Is that inside info or me just knowing my market?
And your mentioned an power desk while JA was on Oil then Nat Gas while at Enron.
Believe it or not about 40%-70% of current energy staff across NA are alum of Enron. Not a better place to be FROM.
JA gets my vote for best trader.
QUOTE]Quote from Agassi:
Remember the incident where the other hedge fund blow up? Amaranth? it was widely believed that money just got transferred from Amaranth to Arnhold...point is that they both were on the opposite side of the trade. And when Amaranth was finally forced to unwind, the top trader from Amaranth called John Arnhold and they didn't agree on the price. The price that John Arnhold quoted was EXTREMELY CLOSE...to pennies. And John predicted this a few months ahead of time. Haven't you seen the Enron documentary? didn't u know that other traders (noth John) purposely shut off the electricity so the prices went up? all this info is publicly available on google. I made my statements based on publicly available information. But of course, john was not involved on any ofthe enron scams. but how can any one make such accurate predictions? Please enlighten me. [/QUOTE]
For instance, if you were selling a 95 Honda Civic for 5k and given my own exp of buying/selling 95 Honda Civics said the real vaule should be 4300-4500. Is that inside info or me just knowing my market?
And your mentioned an power desk while JA was on Oil then Nat Gas while at Enron.
Believe it or not about 40%-70% of current energy staff across NA are alum of Enron. Not a better place to be FROM.
JA gets my vote for best trader.
QUOTE]Quote from Agassi:
Remember the incident where the other hedge fund blow up? Amaranth? it was widely believed that money just got transferred from Amaranth to Arnhold...point is that they both were on the opposite side of the trade. And when Amaranth was finally forced to unwind, the top trader from Amaranth called John Arnhold and they didn't agree on the price. The price that John Arnhold quoted was EXTREMELY CLOSE...to pennies. And John predicted this a few months ahead of time. Haven't you seen the Enron documentary? didn't u know that other traders (noth John) purposely shut off the electricity so the prices went up? all this info is publicly available on google. I made my statements based on publicly available information. But of course, john was not involved on any ofthe enron scams. but how can any one make such accurate predictions? Please enlighten me. [/QUOTE]
