Quote from bigarrow:
I worked with three black girls in New Jersey after the storm. They were handling insurance claims and were very competent and professional and nice girls too. There is quite a bit to insurance adjusting do you think the girls had a lot of Anglo in them?
Quote from Ricter:
Don't the children of wealthy families, on average, attain more wealth in their lives than the children of poor families?
Quote from Mav88:
attain as in given or attain as in earning for themselves? Having a trust fund and building a business are two different things. We know most of the 1% are doctor's kids so are doctor's kids high achievers? I really don't know, but it certainly helps if you are patterning yourself after successful people and your genetics is good.
Reasons for being poor:
1) Low IQ or low health
2) Economically destructive behavior (babies too early, alcohol, etc.)
If you were born dumb, yes your upward moboility will be limited, but if you have talent and work ethic then the isn't much stopping you. So the question is, what fraction of the poor are poor because they are dumb?
In the end achievment is personal, it comes down to your motivation and talent. I know that is contrary to your collectivist thinking, but nobody can summon some collective energy in order to accomplish a task that requires individual effort such as learning or leading. We have plenty examples of rags to riches all around us, and plenty of riches to rags.
Strictly speaking you are probably correct in the sense of how large you bank account is, but that by itself is not achievement unless you started at 0.
That doesn't matter for a fair comparison. Whether an individual is of the work hard for another persuasion, or work hard for himself/herself as in the entrepreneurial persuasion, those who are born to better environment get farther on average than those born to poorer environment.Quote from Mav88:
attain as in given or attain as in earning for themselves? .
Quote from Ricter:
That doesn't matter for a fair comparison. Whether an individual is of the work hard for another persuasion, or work hard for himself/herself as in the entrepreneurial persuasion, those who are born to better environment get farther on average than those born to poorer environment.
And the children of the wealthy have still more opportunities, so given any two similarly intelligent and motivated individuals, the one born to more wealth will, on average, have a better life outcome than the other.Quote from Mav88:
what is important is that opportunity exists for the poor, and it does to a very large degree,