Best production luxury car?

marketsurfer said:
May be a good car, but far from luxury
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I completely disagree. For long distance driving, by far the most comfortable car I have ever driven or ridden in as a passenger was my smallish BMW 325. Plenty enough room for two in the front and not that cramped for two in the back. Plenty of luggage room in the trunk. Incredibly well designed, comfortable seats. And unlike so many cars, the seats also fit you properly in the inclined position. You may be confusing big, ridiculously expensive and ostentatious with "luxury". A big, ridiculously expensive car can be luxurious, but so can a smaller car. There are many places where very large cars are impractical.

The bottom line is luxury and design are matters of personal taste. Of course there are those whose only taste is in their mouths.
 
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piezoe said:
I completely disagree. For long distance driving, by far the most comfortable car I have ever driven or ridden in as a passenger was my smallish BMW 325. Plenty enough room for two in the front and not that cramped for two in the back. Plenty of luggage room in the trunk. Incredibly well designed, comfortable seats.

The bottom line is luxury and design are matters of personal taste. Of course there are those whose only taste is in their mouths.
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I had a 325. I liked the style and performance I liked the way the engine groaned and the way the seats wraparound my body. But they were not comfortable on long trips they killed my back 1.5 - 1 hours of driving max. And it was not nearly as reliable as my previous owned Toyota’s

Butvit was fun to drive
I enjoyed the sunroof as well
 
DallasCowboysFan said:
I had a 325. I liked the style and performance I liked the way the engine groaned and the way the seats wraparound my body. But they were not comfortable on long trips they killed my back 1.5 - 1 hours of driving max. And it was not nearly as reliable as my previous owned Toyota’s

Butvit was fun to drive
I enjoyed the sunroof as well
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My BMW may have been an exception but I loved that car. Especially the way it handled. It was reliable for me. I may have been unusually luck in that regard. In my opinion the mechanic is very important. I bad one will screw up as much as they fix, and always leave a screw or two out somewhere. My BMW was almost as stable at high speeds as my 2007 Porsche Cayman, which has a wider wheel base. I preferred the clutch, manual transmission and steering on the BMW to the same on the Porsche. I also have a 1981 Fiat 2000 spyder. In my opinion, one of the most beautiful sports cars ever with its pininfarina styling, and affordable if you can find one in reasonable condition. Terrific fun to drive too, but no power steering and no AC. Still all original. The clutch-transmission and twincam hemihead engine on this car were both designed by the same engineers that designed that era's Fararri engines and clutches.

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For me, the best car is Japanese, and this is the toyota camry. I recently bought a new one and gave the old one to my son, but I am now in California and my son is in Florida. it's good that howtotransport helped deliver the car to my son. this is very convenient when you can not overtake yourself.
 
Luxury+performance ,My fav audi a8/s8.

D2 s8 suspension not as soft as less powerful a8 models but later ones have adjustable air suspension.
D3 s8 similar engine block to lambo V10.
Newer ones not driven yet..

Prices are quite low for older ones.
The newest ones even more complicated , probably cheap at some point due to enormous potential for failures..
Overcomplicated german engineering...
 
"Best" production car in the luxury category is something in the Lexus line.... when it comes to quality and longer-term reliability.

I've had Mercedes, BMW, Audi and others. I liked them all for driving. Wouldn't want to own any of them long term as they become money pits for servicing and repairs. (I've also had a Datsun 2000, 3x Infiniti (different models), Mitsubish Moneteo, and Subaru Outback. No complaints on any of them for quality and reliability.)

As for now I'm sticking to Japanese cars, made in Japan. If someone wants my opinion, I'd say look in the Lexus/Toyota line or Mazda. My next one will likely be Lexus RX350. Why that one? Trying to avoid such things as V8 engine, GDI/Turbo engine, marginal/poor automatic transmissions and AWD.... all unnecessary potential problem concerns.

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Scataphagos said:
"Best" production car in the luxury category is something in the Lexus line.... when it comes to quality and longer-term reliability.

I've had Mercedes, BMW, Audi and others. I liked them all for driving. Wouldn't want to own any of them long term as they become money pits for servicing and repairs. (I've also had a Datsun 2000, 3x Infiniti (different models), Mitsubish Moneteo, and Subaru Outback. No complaints on any of them for quality and reliability.)

As for now I'm sticking to Japanese cars, made in Japan. If someone wants my opinion, I'd say look in the Lexus/Toyota line or Mazda. My next one will likely be Lexus RX350. Why that one? Trying to avoid such things as V8 engine, GDI/Turbo engine, marginal/poor automatic transmissions and AWD.... all unnecessary potential problem concerns.

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Ditto on BMW's being money pits. I loved my 3 series until it had 80K miles on it and the cooling system failed on me in 104 degree weather and I had to get the engine rebuilt. Then, I had to replace the brakes immediately after that and it cost $400 just for the front brakes, labor not included. The dealership wanted $1500 to do the brake job all the way around.

I love the way they look, the way it sounded, and the way it felt when I sat behind the wheel. But it is better to lease one for 3 years and get rid of it before maintenance issues arise.

Lexus has the best reputation for reliability and the least number of defects within the first 30 days. I don't recall the name of the factory in Japan, but they have a Lexus factory there that is regarded as the best in the world.

Perhaps this is the one.....

https://lexusenthusiast.com/2019/05/26/inside-the-lexus-lc-motomachi-manufacturing-plant-in-japan/

 
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