Are you kidding about "civilised". Being non-white, I ain't going to live in those racist states of US. No way..............
Quote from condorll:
I don't know where you live Lobster (assuming east coast) but I can tell you that having lived in Canada (40 years Montreal-Toronto) and now Seattle (7 years) and having travelled the world frequently (Europe, Caribean, Mexico, Asia) any move away from the Pacific Northwest USA would be a substantial downgrade in my standard of living, quality of medical care etc...
I know the US is not cheap, but you do get what you pay for.
Canada is taxed heavily and healthcare sucks like you would not believe. Europe is riddled with strikes and socialism. Mexico is still poverty stricken, and Asia, well, no way!
A tiny dog got you all upset? Wait till you see what's in store for you in Europe and elsewhere! How about that dog being at the restaurant table next to you? Or stepping in dog crap on the sidewalk. Or eating that dog in Asia! How about being mugged in a foreign language?
I could go on...but in a nutshell the USA is the best, most civilized place in the world.
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