Best island or place to trade from?

Quote from retaildaytrader:

Think about what you just said. Does everyone in Manhattan clear over 500k? Is everyone who does not make over 500k miserable in Manhattan?

The truth is there are many people in Manhattan living below 100th St in reasonable neighborhoods paying less then 2 grand a month and having a great time. A buddy of mine had a high rise doorman apartment that seemed very nice for just $2500 a month.

Do you really need to be boozing or eating at the restaurants in NYC? Once you get above 35 and realize how much weight you can put on quickly, these restaurants will not be the place you want to be.

If you are savvy enough and have common sense, then you dont need to spend a lot of money to get what you want. For example, you can have luxury apartment furnishings at a cheap price just by going on Craigslist in Manhattan. Everyday someone is moving out and needs to sell their furniture quick. Sometimes you can get high quality stuff 10 cents on the dollar.

Once you get to know people and have a quality network, you wont need to pay your way into the clubs or even pay for the drinks. Things will just come.

You do not need a car in a place like San Francisco or New York City which saves you a boatload of money. If you do bring a car to those places then sooner or later it will end up in the towyard.




The ideal place would be Austin, Texas. The nightlife in downtown is simply incredible and you can get drunk on just $10 (only place in the nation with $1 16-oz beers). Its a college town with one of the largest universities in America and there are plenty of young ladies. If you cant get laid in Austin, then you cant get laid.

There is no state income tax in Texas. All of the various houses and apartments are new and sizable.

Since there is no state income tax and Texas is very business friendly, the prices at the stores are considerably less then what you would find in other states.

Unemployment in Austin is under 7% right now where as the rest of the nation is still at 9+%. Not many beggars or homeless like other cities because of a great economy.

There are plenty of cheap hotels and a hostel in Austin. Go down there for a few days and see it for yourself. Why go to Austin versus Florida? Lots of crime, drugs and unemployed in Florida. A lot of great things about Florida, but it can get depressing if you meet the wrong crowd. Lets say trading doesnt work out and you need to move down a different path. Would you rather be in a place with 9+% unemployment rates or a place where the unemployment is way below the national average? If disaster strikes, then you need a backup plan. Miami will probably not offer you that plan.

The most ideal place that has those tropical qualities you speak of is Pattaya City, Thailand. You can get a fairly nice apartment on the cheap and finding a college-aged Thai woman to hang around is not an issue even if you are over 40. There are issues in Thailand, but those issues are easy to navigate around once you know the area and the people.


Again, appreciate your insights...Florida has been at the top of my list but i've recently started having some misgivings after doing some research. As much as I hate texas, I may have to seriously consider austin. Very nearly moved there 15 years ago and know its a great city.


With regard to Manhattan, i just finished living there for 10+ years. You are right -- you can absolutely live in Manhattan and have a decent lifestyle while making 100k+ or so. BUT, not if you have a family. That changes everything...bottom line. Trust me, i tried to figure out how to make that work and there is just no reasonable way. Only option is to move somewhere outside the city, where the cost/benefit rapidly deteriorates.

I would head to Pattaya but I'm not sure how my wife would feel about it...however, i will keep that card in my back pocket ;)
 
Quote from slapshot:

What would you say the "issues" are? Thanks.

Many foreigners live there without problem or incident. Parts of Pattaya are truly nice and scenic. However, it is a 3rd world country and there are various scams that happen all the time. These incidents are widely publicized on the Thai news as they wish to set an example.

You have to watch yourself. If you offend anyone in government or make trouble, then the Royal police will find a way to come down on you. Some people are good at not pissing anyone off, while others seem to piss people off all the time. In the United States, you are given a pass when you piss the wrong people off, but in Thailand there are no such passes. There are plenty of Americans and Australians who are in the jungle prisons of Thailand for doing something.

One common thing is drugs. You do not want to be caught with drugs in Thailand or the penalties will be severe. Oftentimes, the police will throw down a weapon and state it was yours to increase the punishment coming to you

You do have gangs and organized crime...you do have drugs. There are political events that sometimes lead to government crackdowns where people get killed or you see a violent show of force. If you are an American, then you need to get to know a Thai lawyer as soon as you touch down. They will help you out.

So, while parts of Thailand are very nice and scenic, you have to still have that street sense about you. You can live nicely there so long as you know how to avoid trouble and do not cause trouble for anyone. If you can do that, then Thailand is a great place to be. It is not a first world country though and so trouble will probably come to you faster then it will back in your hometown in Australia or the states.
 
Quote from HuggieBear:

Again, appreciate your insights...Florida has been at the top of my list but i've recently started having some misgivings after doing some research. As much as I hate texas, I may have to seriously consider austin. Very nearly moved there 15 years ago and know its a great city.


With regard to Manhattan, i just finished living there for 10+ years. You are right -- you can absolutely live in Manhattan and have a decent lifestyle while making 100k+ or so. BUT, not if you have a family. That changes everything...bottom line. Trust me, i tried to figure out how to make that work and there is just no reasonable way. Only option is to move somewhere outside the city, where the cost/benefit rapidly deteriorates.

I would head to Pattaya but I'm not sure how my wife would feel about it...however, i will keep that card in my back pocket ;)

If you have family, then Austin is the place. Miami is filled with drugs and trouble-makers...not a good place to raise kids. Austin can be a little boring at times, but it is economically superior right not then any other place in the United States. Its boring nature would keep your kids out of trouble.
 
Quote from HuggieBear:

I tend to think the same as you above, but the drawback with places like NYC, San Fran, et al is that you are probably going to need to clear 500k per year to have a reasonable life. Obviously that is a pretty big nut to cover as an independent trader.


I am interested in places that would have a lower structural cost -- lower RE prices, lower tax rate, etc, while still affording a really good quality of life. Unfortunately, i don't have much of a list yet...but, there have got to be options. Obviously, being location independent should afford some opportunities to live in places that are very desirable, but maybe not very expensive due to lack of great employment opportunities.

Just need to figure out what they are!


Check out Lake Conroe in Montgomery Texas. Small town feel but only a short drive to Houston if you feel the need for it.

Some of the top ranked public schools in Texas.


You can get a decent house on the lake for under 500k.


http://irec.lakeconroe.com/content.cfm?CF=45&search_id=114
 
Quote from retaildaytrader:

If you have family, then Austin is the place. Miami is filled with drugs and trouble-makers...not a good place to raise kids. Austin can be a little boring at times, but it is economically superior right not then any other place in the United States. Its boring nature would keep your kids out of trouble.


Traffic sucks balls in Austin, try checking out Hutto, TX. It's a small suburb 22 miles northeast of Austin and one of the fastest growing areas in TX. There is a toll road that has been built that let's you bypass all the BS on I35.
 
Quote from volente_00:

Check out Lake Conroe in Montgomery Texas. Small town feel but only a short drive to Houston if you feel the need for it.

Some of the top ranked public schools in Texas.


You can get a decent house on the lake for under 500k.


http://irec.lakeconroe.com/content.cfm?CF=45&search_id=114

As a native Houstonian, I advise against Houston, Conroe, The Woodlands, Galveston, or anything else near Houston. Maybe Im just jaded, but I feel as if that whole metro area is just lacking any sort of character and life. Everything is the same, there is nothing interesting anywhere.

I have lived all over the country, New Orleans, San Antonio, Minneapolis, Miami, Providence, Nashville, of all the places Ive called home Portland, OR has been my fav. I moved out of Houston when I was 19 and Ive liked every place more, save for New Orleans, that place is a shithole.
 
Quote from Now is Now:

I hope they wipe themselves out before they get to Lake Worth after being stopped in Palm Beach....:D


NiN

Oh it's been a while you were there. West Palm is full of them now and Boca also.
 
Quote from buzzy2:

If you're a kid, you just want to party and meet lots of chicks Manhattan is good, if you're middle aged you want some safe suburb with great schools for the kids and clean air: CT maybe?, if you're old you want somewhere quiet, with great health care, and clean air, good weather not that cold, like FL?.
Add taxes to the equation and it gets even more complicated.
There is no "best place" for everyone.

What if i am old and want meet lots of chicks ?
 
Quote from Hombre:

What if i am old and want meet lots of chicks ?
Tailand is good. From my experience (only as a tourist) there are lots of expat retirees dataing (and living with) younger (often much younger) local women (and men). From what I heard accommodation is cheaper and food is massively cheaper if you like local food. Also great massage.

Best place to spend a few weeks or months is beach areas rather than Bangcock.

Others point out there are "issues".

Quote from retaildaytrader:

You have to watch yourself. If you offend anyone in government or make trouble, then the Royal police will find a way to come down on you. Some people are good at not pissing anyone off, while others seem to piss people off all the time. In the United States, you are given a pass when you piss the wrong people off, but in Thailand there are no such passes. There are plenty of Americans and Australians who are in the jungle prisons of Thailand for doing something.
I understand you have been interested in the subject. Do you have a few stories of how one can "offend anyone in government or make trouble"? I guess such event should involve more than saying a few rude words when drunk or having a loud argument when short-changed. Does this involve running a business in Thailand? Or getting into a fight?
 
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