Best Country for Trading (Tax efficiency)
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@CALLumbus : Because of personal reasons like I can hide my assets and it's easier to separate your earnings with a prenup agreement from your spouse if you get married.
@Daal : You don't understand an important point. The corporate tax rate in (according to KPMG) is 34% combined (combined because the Brazil corporate tax system is complicated).
So what you don't know is that a company has its own residence for tax purposes. If you're the owner and you're the director then the effective place of management of your company is in Brazil regardless of where you have incorporated your company. If the effective place of management is in Brazil then your offshore company will be treated as a resident company and it will be subject to the local taxes and rules.
You don't have to believe me because it's a world-wide rule made by the OECD.
So what you don't know is that a company has its own residence for tax purposes. If you're the owner and you're the director then the effective place of management of your company is in Brazil regardless of where you have incorporated your company. If the effective place of management is in Brazil then your offshore company will be treated as a resident company and it will be subject to the local taxes and rules.
You don't have to believe me because it's a world-wide rule made by the OECD.
@i am nobody : I'd love to see how could they call me a resident. For instance if I spend 18 weeks a year in France, in hotels then they simply cannot tax me. I fly there for a week then I leave. I'm a tourist. All my companies, bank accounts, trusts, foundations, credit and debit cards are in 20+ countries, none if France. So I can use my cards in France as a tourist without worries.
Btw, you just grabbed one sentence. I said if you don't trade and you spend 6 months there and you stick to your rules in order not to become a resident then you're fine.
Btw, you just grabbed one sentence. I said if you don't trade and you spend 6 months there and you stick to your rules in order not to become a resident then you're fine.
This "rule" is not on the books of brazil. Whats in the tax books is the cashflow regime that I mentioned earlier
http://www.sperotto.com.br/?pag=noticia&idpost=359
this article is in portuguese, it talks about how the government was going to shutdown that loophope. Well, congress didnt allow that to happen and the loophole continues. No one gives a shit about the OECD
They can see the period that you stayed in France by monitoring your creditcard and your mobile phone. If you call with a british mobile phone during 8 months from France territory they know you were there 8 months. Same applies to creditcards.
All this is used as additional evidence if ever they put an eye on you. Therefore cash money and no mobile phone.
Also, I'm fairly certain you are wrong about Panama cap gains tax rules being the same as HK. There is no differentiation of short-term and long-term capital gains there
@i am nobody : You got me wrong. I do NOT want to spend 8 months in France, not even 6 or 4months thanks 
So trust me, I'm a tourist in France. I do not own / rent a home there, I don't have anything there. I just go there for pleasure 10+ weeks a year, sometimes to Paris, sometimes to Cannes. Different hotels all the time. Zero pattern.
So trust me, I'm a tourist in France. I do not own / rent a home there, I don't have anything there. I just go there for pleasure 10+ weeks a year, sometimes to Paris, sometimes to Cannes. Different hotels all the time. Zero pattern.@Daal : Again, your company is a Brazil resident company. It's that simple.
Capital gain: when you buy a stock or real estate now and you sell it months or years later and you don't do this often and you have another source of income.
Trading income: when you buy and sell financial instruments on a daily or weekly basis, using leverage and this is your only source of income.
Here I saw plenty of people who say this. The reality is that even if you trade but you don't make a considerable amount of money then they won't bother you but if you make a lots of money then they will tax you because it's trading income not capital gains.
Capital gain: when you buy a stock or real estate now and you sell it months or years later and you don't do this often and you have another source of income.
Trading income: when you buy and sell financial instruments on a daily or weekly basis, using leverage and this is your only source of income.
Here I saw plenty of people who say this. The reality is that even if you trade but you don't make a considerable amount of money then they won't bother you but if you make a lots of money then they will tax you because it's trading income not capital gains.
So the tax lawyers with 5 year degrees are wrong, but you with a 1 hour wikipedia research on a country you never been to, is correct?