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The magnitude of DOMS isn't the same for everybody so you may just be lucky.


I wouldn't call 3 hours in the weight area and 1 hour resistance training in the pool, "luck"
 
Quote from Gcapman:

I wouldn't call 3 hours in the weight area and 1 hour resistance training in the pool, "luck"

Not sure I understand what you mean. Are you suggesting you don't get DOMS due to skill?
 
Quote from byteme:

To avoid adaptation and continue inducing micro-trauma => DOMS (that's one theory) you need to increase the load otherwise you'll find that your initial gains are just due to your previous decondition i.e. beginners luck and you will plateau soon enough.

The problem with increasing load is that my joints can't support it. I am strong enough, but my elbows start to hurt bad.

Also note that protein availability is often the limiting factor in muscle hypertrophy so if you are losing more fat weight than you are gaining muscle weight this may be a factor. How much protein are you consuming and when (in relation to your w/o)?
I either have one of those protein bars, or oatmeal about an hour or two before workout. Afterwards, I often have split pea soup which is very high in protein.

However, now that your program has changed you should probably stop looking at your weight completely and focus on your next bf% reading.
I only look at my weight now more out of curiosity than as a goal, although I admit that seeing a 7 instead of an 8 raised my spirits.
 
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Are you regularly doing 30 minutes cardio just before lifting?
Yes.

Is this what your trainer recommended?
I don't have a trainer, so no, that is something that I though was a good idea, to slowly go from 100% cardio to some mix of lifting/cardio. Also, the cardio warms my body considerably of course, and while that may not be that important in the summer, in the winter I think it is really important so as to help prevent injury, imo.
 
eat whole plants nitro it won't matter what your activity level ..the fat will melt off ...if you don't place high-energy food (meat, fried, broiled or otherwise, processed boxed food products, anything that comes in a box or can)in your mouth you won't have to work your ass burning off that high-calorie junk food. if you don't recognize it as smthg that comes from a garden, don't eat it! :D
 
Quote from nitro:

The problem with increasing load is that my joints can't support it. I am strong enough, but my elbows start to hurt bad.

That doesn't sound normal if the pain is bad. Could be tendonitis or something else. Suggest you see a doctor about it. I'm assuming your elbow(s) hurt on dips, tricep pushdowns, close-grip bench press, skull crushers etc.?

Do you experience similar joint issues when squatting?


I either have one of those protein bars, or oatmeal about an hour or two before workout. Afterwards, I often have split pea soup which is very high in protein.

Sounds like a good start.

As you've already hinted, 10 different people will give you 10 different, often contradictory opinions on these matters.

However, I will suggest regular consumption of protein over the 24-36 hour period after lifting is also important. In addition, your body can't start using that protein until your muscles' glycogen stores have been re-filled after workout i.e. carbs pwo are important too.


I only look at my weight now more out of curiosity than as a goal, although I admit that seeing a 7 instead of an 8 raised my spirits.

yep, good job on that.
 
Quote from nitro:

The problem with increasing load is that my joints can't support it. I am strong enough, but my elbows start to hurt bad.


You gotta be patient building up the weights to allow your joints and ligaments and tendons to get used to working out. Patience. I think doing sets of 15-20 reps for several months is the way to go, then gradually add weight to that your getting down to 12-14 resps, then 8-10.....ideally keeping it to 6-10 reps, I think, if you're wanting to get some size. And keep trying to add more weight or do more reps each time in the gym. If you can't do more, it means you're not getting enough rest.

Don't push it and injure those joints. Patience. hell, also, consult a trainer and have them check your form.
 
Quote from olias:

Don't push it and injure those joints. Patience. hell, also, consult a trainer and have them check your form.

Yeah, it's possible he might have gone too heavy too soon.

To echo what you said, the only way to keep increasing the load=>avoid adaptation=>micro-trauma=>hypertropy is: to start light with high reps and move to heavier weights with lower reps as the load increases.

If you've previously not been conditioned your body will respond even to light weights at the beginning even if you feel you aren't working out that hard.

However, this kind of elbow pain is a bit suspect IMO and is worth checking out with a doctor at his earliest convenience.
 
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