Belief in God and Market Perspective

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Quote from SWhiting:

If God knows the future he cannot change it. For example, if God 'knows' that the S&P will close at 1300.00 but then 'changes' the future to have the S&P close at 1305.00 instead then it was never 'in the future' to close 1300.00


Apparently you never watched "Back to the Future" :D
 
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Apparently you never watched "Back to the Future" :D

Damn! That was the point of Back to the Future, wasn't it? Ah, my eyes are open. It makes more sense now. I think I was 5 years old when it came out.
 
Quote from jem:

I am not -

after months of obfuscation you are comfortable coming out and preaching an Eastern ideal of God.

Lets just say for me it goes 3 ways.

1. No God

2. God as in the God of the old testament with a reasonable debate about the divinity of Jesus

3. Eastern God which is really no God but for a strong sales pitch about everyone being God.

I find your definition of God to be the least likely. I for sure know I am not God and I am not deceiving myself when I say it.


There is only One...and one way out of here. For the moment, your way is self-deception. You are way more intelligent than this, but that your motives trip you up and make you stumble. Pretending to follow me may fool you, but not me.

If you are not identifying with Christ, you have not yet been baptized. Rather, you deny Christ, thinking yourself humble. This is not humility. It is arrogance which attempts to change what *our Father* Created...you...before the foundation of the world. What you have made of yourself since does not change what *our Father* created, but it does change Self to a self-concept, which disbelieves it's own Truth, and "walks" away from Reality. This is but foolishness. You are perfectly capable of rising above the pettiness of little minds in denial. Be of good cheer. I have overcome the world of smallsville, so you can too.

Christ is everything. If you are not in Christ, you are nowhere and nothing, thinking yourself to be something, somewhere. This places you within illusions about yourself, powerless, helpless, at the mercy of forces around you. None of this is true. Even "there", you cannot not be in Christ. You cannot "know" you are not the Son of God, equal to the Father in every way. You can believe what you want...in fantasies. That is all. You can make the fantasy seem "real". Nothing more.

Congratulate yourself instead, on masking what cannot be denied. Laugh instead at this vainglorious masquerade. Heaven cannot be fooled by your funny antics. Rather, your protests are transparent, and the light of Christ can be seen right through the smokescreens you have put up to hide the light.

Jesus:D
 
Quote from jem:

I think therefore I am not God. If I were God I would not be thinking. I would be.

Exactly. Thinking is a process invented to self-decieve. It is for seeing and doing. It makes "things" to "see", and "acts" "out". God created you to be and create. Thinking masks the Truth, but cannot obliterate the Kingdom, which has been sent/taken with you - "within" - on your strange journeys into oblivion.

*Our Father* creates only equals, and likewise, we create only equals. If you are not equal, you must be a self-concept, asleep, small, unique, special, believing, uncertain, sacrificing, seeking, striving, weak...everything not of our Father's Kingdom. This cosmos is not an equal. It is an opposite of Self in every way. So it is a joke. Time to start laughing.

Thinking is the other "master" I spoke of when I said, "you cannot serve two masters". A house [think: mind, temple] divided against itself cannot stand. Falling, it conjures up images. Thus, man is imagined...as in, "graven image". How is that not a joke? I thought you liked the old testament?!

Jesus:D
 
Quote from I am...:

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Christ is everything. If you are not in Christ, you are nowhere and nothing, thinking yourself to be something, somewhere. This places you within illusions about yourself, powerless, helpless, at the mercy of forces around you. None of this is true. Even "there", you cannot not be in Christ. You cannot "know" you are not the Son of God, equal to the Father in every way. You can believe what you want...in fantasies. That is all. You can make the fantasy seem "real". Nothing more.

Congratulate yourself instead, on masking what cannot be denied. Laugh instead at this vainglorious masquerade. Heaven cannot be fooled by your funny antics. Rather, your protests are transparent, and the light of Christ can be seen right through the smokescreens you have put up to hide the light.

Jesus:D

Nice bit of self referencing there, buddy.
 
Quote from rcj:

Nice bit of self referencing there, buddy.

Thank you. The world is like a Self-referencing dictionary, dubiously defining what it denies it knows.

Jesus:)
 
Quote from jem:

I asked you to say yes or no and if not why not.


Question: Do you believe there is a God beyond the god-of-this-world god [ie. OT god]?

Jesus:D
 
Quote from I am...:

Thank you. The world is like a Self-referencing dictionary, dubiously defining what it denies it knows.

Jesus:)

"Thank you" <------> Bullshit
 
Oxford English Dictionary (OED)
atheism
Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a god.
....Not to believe or credit;
Quote from jem:
I would say that after reading my quote of the oxford english dictionary - your usage is not supported.
My emphases is I suggest, why you don't really debate at all. Excused definitions, which accomodate the word atheist as simply no belief without connotation , are blind spotted so to avoid the obvious, which doesn't sit with a particular narrowed down view.
Like adding to a constantly losing trade

Tell me jem, do you also think the definition of apolitical is someone who believes in the non existence of politics?
 
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