Belief in God and Market Perspective

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Look, it's very simple. If you believe in God, then you don't get to party with champagne, blow & sluts. If you are an atheist baller-trader, you do.

That's all the argument anyone should need.
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Why sacrifice so much? You don't remember what heaven is like. So what seems plenty is only so by comparison to what is scarce. The reason the scarce must be let go is because you can't have both scarcity and abundance. Abundance substitutes are designed to keep you seeking sanctuary where salvation can never be found...outside yourself. Heaven is achieved when, seeing the world for what it is, there is no sacrifice in letting it go.


Jesus
 
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* When I die, I will be in Heaven for the rest of eternity.
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You'll be where you want to be. There is strong indication, from your posts that you want to be in what time offers. And this is because to believe something you must want it to be true. If you believe God made this world, then you must want it. And from what you want, God cannot save you.

Death is an expression of indecision. Only a decision for Truth can set you free of time, space, form and what it means. Choose, and be "chosen"/decided.

Jesus
 
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The world begins with an attack on Truth. What else would it be but insane? And while you think like it, you will not understand that the crucifixion was the truth about the genesis of this world. And from what you've seen in the Marines, it should be obvious this world IS the crucifixion of Christ - Truth and Life. It is bent on perpetuating it forever, so the attack is masked with golf courses and good times. But it is a battleground everywhere, all the time. And while even one is not yet free, the work of salvation is not yet finished - in time. It is finished from an eternal perspective which cannot be understood while you hide out from the Truth that you may avoid accepting it. No problem. You have all the time in the world. Merely understand what the world is, and what your home is, and you would not consent to delay longer. The world is one thing. If it had to be one thing, what do you think that would be?

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I'm not too sure what you just said, but I'll take a few pieces, and add my thoughts.

* The crucifixion of Christ and two other Men on Calgary DID occur. Jesus accepted one as he said he believed. The other told him to save himself if he was the Messiah. He had no idea that Jesus was here for the very reason to bleed, and die for US. All we have to do is accept the fact that God sent his only Son here, born of the Virgin Mary, to die for our sins so that we can be saved is all that's asked... Doesn't take too much math, MACD, SMA's, etc., to figure that one out.

*I was in combat in Iraq. Yes, if it weren't for prayer, and my faith that God has placed me here for a reason, I would not be able to handle what I did and observed... Most people PULL the trigger and miss. Marines SQUEEZE the trigger, and hit with deadly results...

* Golf courses and good times are all good to go as long as the people who are enjoying what they have was put here for them by GOD, AND THEY NEED TO GIVE THANKS FOR IT! I do. Especially when I actually finish a 'few:p ' points above par. I thank our Father for giving me the ability to do these things...

* It's a battleground on the truth. People don't want to hear the truth. That's why there are thousands of guys on here wanting some magic bullet trading system instead of learning the truth, sticking with it, and putting it into action...

* You said "The world is one thing. If it had to be one thing, what do you think that would be?"
To be quite candid, I have absolutely no clue. When our Father takes his children home, the World will be what it will be at that time... Those who have not accepted him will suffer. I won't be one suffering.:) I've suffered enough in where I've been, seen, and done...
 
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I'm not too sure what you just said, but I'll take a few pieces, and add my thoughts.

* The crucifixion of Christ and two other Men on Calgary DID occur. Jesus accepted one as he said he believed. The other told him to save himself if he was the Messiah. He had no idea that Jesus was here for the very reason to bleed, and die for US. All we have to do is accept the fact that God sent his only Son here, born of the Virgin Mary, to die for our sins so that we can be saved is all that's asked... Doesn't take too much math, MACD, SMA's, etc., to figure that one out.

*I was in combat in Iraq. Yes, if it weren't for prayer, and my faith that God has placed me here for a reason, I would not be able to handle what I did and observed... Most people PULL the trigger and miss. Marines SQUEEZE the trigger, and hit with deadly results...

* Golf courses and good times are all good to go as long as the people who are enjoying what they have was put here for them by GOD, AND THEY NEED TO GIVE THANKS FOR IT! I do. Especially when I actually finish a 'few:p ' points above par. I thank our Father for giving me the ability to do these things...
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Yes, in time you have suffered. And that is an effect of believing in what is not true...the world and what it stands for: the denial of Christ. And the acceptance of Truth is the path away from suffering.

Think of the Gospel like a solved Rubric's Cube, and as each one handled it, he "fixed" it to match his conception of color, according to his theological biases. The Rubric's Cube of the Gospel is filtered through Jewish mental filters, extremely distorted by centuries of myth, magic, "facts", and held hostage to an idol, the-god-of-this-world, which is not *our Father*. As such, the meaning of the Gospel is lost, and the Truth is re-crucified as man seeks it but to "live" only to "die" for any little reason whatsoever. This is not the Truth. And as man "lives", the Truth must "die".

Although mixed up, you should at least take note of that mysterious, out-of-place sentence in Revelation in which it is said that the Lamb of God was "slain before the foundation of the world". This should clue you in to the fact that the crucifixion was a parody of the world's genesis, while the tomb is a parody of man's existence in time. Therefor time passes in the tomb, symbolized by "three days". This is man's "reality". It is not "life", though he thinks it is. It is the night of the living dead, alive only in comparison with his death. If this is true, then the resurrection is a parody of man's destiny. Rather, it is the destiny of the Son of God, and marks the end of time for the prodigal Son.

Jesus
 
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* It's a battleground on the truth. People don't want to hear the truth. That's why there are thousands of guys on here wanting some magic bullet trading system instead of learning the truth, sticking with it, and putting it into action...
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You might understand that the first casualty of war is the truth. When the truth is gone, what have you? Propaganda? Such is the very first sentence in the Bible. If you buy that, you eat the proverbial bad "apple" a few paragraphs later. It's a set up, and you've fallen for it. The genesis of this world is not benign. It is malicious, and survives on psy-ops.

The mode of salvation you have described is in fact a magic bullet trading system, in which you attempt to trade off a load of guilt for innocence. The truth about guilt is that it is part of the psy-op campaign which makes this world turn. It is false, and therefore not the truth. The truth is that innocence is universal, all through time, regardless of appearances. If you find this hard to believe, you've been duped far more deeply than you are willing yet to admit. You way underestimate the extent of the psy-ops that prop this place up, as it deems to replace eternity with its own substitute: time.

I take way the sins of the world by telling the world the Truth about innocence. You need but to accept the Truth about reality. This must mean the world is not real at all. It is made after the image of a false god, an idol...not *our Father*.

Jesus
 
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* You said "The world is one thing. If it had to be one thing, what do you think that would be?"
To be quite candid, I have absolutely no clue. When our Father takes his children home, the World will be what it will be at that time... Those who have not accepted him will suffer. I won't be one suffering.:) I've suffered enough in where I've been, seen, and done...
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The world is an illusion of reality, a non-place in imagination in which it seems that the concept of "good and evil" as one thing can be the truth, instead of the Truth. Therefore, there is the Kingdom of God, and an imaginary kingdom masquerading as *our Father's* Kingdom.

The world is one thing: nothing. Quite literally. That is the Truth, to either accept or reject. The Kingdom of God is everything...for you to either accept or reject.

The world is magic: the attempt to reconcile the unreconcilable...to mix true and untrue, like wheat and tares together, as if to make the impossible possible. As such, the world is entirely a hypothetical contruct, believed in, and experienced as "real". It is a mind game, played by a very powerful being. It is mainly a blame game. You've been sucked into it, wishing for its very genesis, and biting the bad apple of opposites-in-one.

Now you rely on magical solutions for problems, like mixing God and flesh as "one", and "eating" it...that is to ingest and believe in what is not true. Yes, the crucifixion was and event in time, but you misinterpret it according to Jewish mental filters, gladly assenting to the concept of sacrifice...which will kill you while you partake of the Lord's Supper without discretion. Understand that the Truth is One [think: one loaf], "broken" that the "many" may "live". You understand this backwards. Your existence as a man comes at the expense [sacrifice] of Truth. Since there is only One Truth, your Truth is my Truth. Therefore, you have sacrificed yourSelf to magically mix God with flesh. Likewise, all men drink from the same, One cup of Truth. And they "live" as the Truth bleeds to death. You do not understand the parable: Man's existence is antithetical to Truth. It cannot coexist with Truth. "Flesh" will always be at enmity with Spirit. They cannot be reconciled but by magic. Flesh is not for the Truth and so it is against the Truth, being "anti-Christ". Yet the Truth yeilds to anti-christ's insane wishes to make what is not true Truth! And so, the Truth "dies" for man's "sins"...the wish to walk away from reality and go insane.

Jesus
 
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Ok,:confused: I give...

Here's something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okxOcrcjrS8

The song is "to live is to die."
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Man was born to die. As such, I represent all men as "the son of man"...born to die. Note well, man is a strange duality, the effect of an attempt to marry Christ with anti-christ...life with death. And yet, what can die was never living. So what is man but a rediculous parody of Creation? Creation is Life eternal. Opposite Creation, man is forever neither life nor death...a meaningless oxymoron...leaving life to chance...having left Life to change.

Jesus
 
There is nothing wrong with a Chrisitian
praying to be a better trader, if God has called him/her to
trading.
In this forum people will complain strongly if you say you do
even this.
One has to expect it here.
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God knows the future and God can change the future.
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-Stephen
 
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