Belief in God and Market Perspective

[Marduk]

Quote from vhehn:

its pretty hard to scare educated people with tales of hell and damnation in this day and age.

Yes...Yes...My son. Invoke the Post Modernist theme. It may take a little time to achieve the first weakening in him.

OH, I should remind you to keep him away from the likes of Sokal and Chomsky as they definitely do not help Our Cause.

News. Your *Father* (and mine) has informed me that He has instructed Baal to choose one of his priests to mentor you in your new Office as Temple Prostitute.

I Am...Marduk

 

[TraderZones]

Quote from ownedu:

Religion is for children and the simple minded

what could be said about someone with 20 aliases (cold, C-kid, jasonn, T28, etc. etc. etc.), all with the aim of constantly trying to appear stupid in front of hundreds of others (and succeeding)?

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from stephenszpak:

They say that in every age.
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The fool says in his heart,
"There is no God."

about 1000 B.C.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&chapter=53&version=31&context=chapter

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every generation has also been sure jesus will return in their lifetime. thats the thing about superstition. it is hard to kill with logic.

 

[I am...]

Quote from musclemoney:

When you say "laughing days", I'll hope you meant happiness, and tears of joy as our time on Earth will be over, and believers will walk in the Kingdom of Heaven.

You are confused about how Christ comes again. The earth/world has always been in tribulation. Its just that you are blind to it's source, its genesis, its scope, its depth, and its resolution. When you understand these things, then you are in your last days in the world. "Look up" means be ready and willing to open your eyes to another world, which is "at hand" always, in every age. When you see it, you will rejoice. But just before you see it, you must open your eyes to the fact that you are in hell, and the god-of-hell is not your friend, and there is no rest for the "wicked", and you will be dogged and persecuted because it is the nature of hell to rough you up. This is going on every day, but you make excuses for it, justifying the world and its maker, pretending that it can be fixed up, if only unbelievers were sent to a worse hell. This attitude traps you in hell. Hell happens every day, not just in the future. Realize that hell is not worth saving, and you are ready to "look up", for your redemption draws nigh. Exodus is one here, one there, like popcorn popping. There is no mass exodus imposed at some set time upon believers and unbelievers alike. Only the chosen exit. But you will not exit while you value hell, and choose between illusions and yet more illusions, lies and more lies. You could see the Son of God tommorrow if you were willing, and knew how to choose, understanding what you are choosing, and why. All of your theology is designed to push the Son of God off into the distant future because you are afraid of salvation, and what it means. How long will you keep doing this? A thousand, a million years? Your plan for salvation has failed, you must admit. Only God's plan for salvation will work.

Jesus

 

[I am...]

Quote from musclemoney:

I've suffered fire, and combat on Earth. However, it PALES in comparison to what the World WILL ultimately see, AND it's non believers.

Why would anyone create people who are going to live, and die to ultimately live in some kind of vaccum? Why would God give us Children who make us smile, who create life after we are gone if we are supposed to be some kind of dust matter after death?? Why would God allow ANYONE to be happy on Earth if they were merely here to die, and live without salvation?

It will do you no good to make threats upon the Son of God, for that is all that is in hell: The Son of God, masked, and mad with guilt, accused falsly by false witnesses. You do not recognize the Son of God in hell because you believe in separation as truth, which is why you are in hell. Threats to send parts of the Son of God to deeper levels of hell merely keep you in hell, and the Son of God with you. You cannot divide the Son of God into pieces, save some, and condemn others. You don't understand oneness or holiness. It's all or nothing. You will not be saved while you condemn anything else. You cannot hide behind a book and a god who burns unbelievers. You are merely projecting your wishes upon god, diverting attention away from the fact that you wish for what you believe. You cannot hide behind a book. At some point you must take responsibility for the book, and/or your interpretation of it. You are not a parrot, zombie or a robot reader. You are the Son of God, in denial of Self, for the hell of it.

Jesus

 

[I am...]

Quote from musclemoney:

Why would anyone create people who are going to live, and die to ultimately live in some kind of vaccum? Why would God give us Children who make us smile, who create life after we are gone if we are supposed to be some kind of dust matter after death?? Why would God allow ANYONE to be happy on Earth if they were merely here to die, and live without salvation?

I've told you, the world is a mad idea, laughable, taken curiously, then taken seriously. Judged "true", it was instantaneously wished for and believed in by Christ, making of himself something *anti-christ*. It expresses the attributes of Christ, in opposite terms. It substitutes pseudo Christ-like attributes and mixes these with opposites along continuums. It attempts to "know" both "Good" and Good's opposite [Good has no opposite] as one thing, calling it "real". This is how the world is built. Don't assume it started as any kind of creation. It is made up of idle wishes and grievances. It is a dream of all that is not true, everything that is not real, and nothing made into something. How is this not a joke on Self? The dream is not worth saving, rotten to the core from its genesis. The dreamer is worth saving. You are that dreamer. You identify with images in your dream, as if you were made by the dream-maker. These are self-concepts, confused and lost, needing guidance to extradite themselves from a dark, labyrinthian maze. You are so confused, you do not readily believe or trust true guidance, judging it blasphemous and condemning *the Way* out. Your experiences are directly correlated to you wishes. From what you want, God cannot save you. So you wander time, aimlessly, promising yourself salvation-by-death, and failing each time, repeating the same mistakes over and over again. You will be delivered from this, I promise you. But not without your consent. Currently, you do not consent. But you will, because you are the Will of God, willing another will while it seems worthwhile.

Jesus

 

[I am...]

Quote from musclemoney:

Why would anyone create people who are going to live, and die to ultimately live in some kind of vaccum? Why would God give us Children who make us smile, who create life after we are gone if we are supposed to be some kind of dust matter after death?? Why would God allow ANYONE to be happy on Earth if they were merely here to die, and live without salvation?

Try to undertand that your self-concept is technically an atheist and an idolater. You do not believe in *our Father* who only blesses. You believe in a god who blesses and curses. That god is an idol, existing by fiat of belief only. You believe in the idol because that is what you want. It strips its believer of power that it may possess the believers mind, attempting to survive by making "time" last forever. It induces thought processes, hypnotically influencing the mind which hosts it, taking it hostage. Dividing the mind in order to conquer it, it offers "gifts" to tempt the mind to welcome trojan horses.

The body is a trojan horse, offering special status and unique identity. It is technically an image - a graven image - idolized by the hypnotized. *Our Father* did not make it! It is given to decieve you. It is accepted as you agree to be decieved. It blinds you to reality, making the idol's world more real than the Kingdom of God to you.

Children are gifts of the idol...little idols to make you smile...that you may give and recieve special love. *Our Father* does not love unequally, and all in the Kingdom are equals. None are weak, none learn, and all are perfect, having everything. Children are self-concepts which are relatively opposite the way the *Father and the Son* create: Like from Like. Children are not like their parents. They are born weak. They know nothing. They must grow and learn. They are different, unique...special. All of this is of the idol, which makes a rediculous parody of God's creation.

Children are not for "you". They are for the idol, for its longevity and survival. So long as the human race survives, so does the idol. It cares not about your so-called "life". Is that not obvious? Why do you think it good that the race lives on, while you rot in the grave?

*Our Father* does not cooperate with this at all, knows nothing of it, and knows only his Son, perfect as himself. This is all your doing, and for your undoing...with Guidance. You must lead your own undoing, giving the first 10% of willingness, so to speak, that all your self-concepts be gone from your holy mind. The Holy Spirit will then supply the other 90% strength needed for your deliverance from temptation...from what *our Father* does not understand because it is completely meaningless.

Bottom line: Everything the idol does is for its own survival. It lives off of a mind that could end its existence at any moment belief were withdrawn from it. So it must tempt that mind to accept what it offers. As you accept its gifts, and give thanks for them, you settle for less than what *our Father* gave you, and sacrifice everything for nothing...valuing nothing...even death, that the idol may live on in your mind like a parasite...a worm that never intends to die so long as you consent to make mulch of your mind.

Jesus

 

[I am...]

Quote from musclemoney:

Please quote source of this for me.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

[I am...]

Quote from ownedu:

Religion is for children and the simple minded

Resurrection is for adults. Kids, don't try this at home!

 

[I am...]

Quote from musclemoney:

The "last laugh days?" I don't think anyone will be laughing. Non-believers will be crying, and believers will be rejoicing. As behold, the second coming of Christ will be upon us. He will take us home. Until then people will try to rationalize the following, and suffer:

It is you who rationalize suffering. When you stop rationalizing it, "look up" for your redemption draws nigh. Your eyes will open to another world reflecting only the love of God. This is the only world you could possibly rationalize. And as you do, it will lead you home to Heaven. It is a place of joy and laughing. When your eyes are open to it, you are in your last days in the world of time. There is nothing to "see" in Heaven, but everything to "know". There is no perception, only knowledge. There are no reflections, just the reality. There is no suffering in reality. Suffering is a product of anti-christ.

The second coming of Christ is the entire exodus of Christ from the world of anti-christ, homecoming to Heaven. You have it backwards. Coming to the world [anti-christ] virtually destroys Christ by separating him into little pieces. Why would Christ make the same mistake twice? It rips him apart. The Atonement [think: re-one-ment] of the One Christ is the "second coming" It is another word for resurrection, or, the Great Awakening. It is followed by Ascension [think: homecoming], not more crucifixion by what destroys him [think: "no man left behind"].

How is it you can open your eyes, so-to-speak, and see another world? It is because the world you see is an optical delusion of consciousness, conforming to your thoughts and wishes. It is an accumulation of many ancient thoughts and wishes which can be traced back to your wish to see what is anti-christ. While you made this world, the Holy Spirit made another one for you, in your name, which reflects the face of Christ...heaven. It too is within consciousness. So it is a matter of changing the channels on what you want to see. I empower your nearly dead will to change channels by motivating change with the attraction of Truth. Ultimately, there is no consciousness. It is merely a belief converted, temporarily, for purposes of exodus and salvation on your way back to Home, which is Heaven, from whence you came. You think you came from the world of consciousness/anti-christ. You did not. You think you are both a Son of God and the son of man. You are not. Choose what you will see: Christ decimated, or, Christ Whole.

Jesus