stephenszpak wrote:
The cutoff point is after you sin your first time.
See comments below about the *original* and *only* "sin".
The Father sent His only Son (ie. Jesus) to be the perfect
man to die in place of you and me. The Father didn't have to
send Him, yet He did.
The Father sent the Holy Spirit to be Life to a Son who slept, and dreamed of death. The Holy Spirit was created for this purpose, equal to the Father and the Son, bridging a communication gap. No one can die for anyone, because no one can really die. Death is not the Truth. It is a lie. What appears to be death is a self-concept changing form...a thought-stream that learns. That is what self-concepts do...they are always changing. They are born to die, only to find they are still "alive". So they are the "living dead", not quite alive, not quite dead. Death is mind asleep. To live is to wake up. I woke up. Now it is your turn to wake up. Wake up!
The cross was about getting your attention...an extreme teaching device, which, if understood, can "save" your mind which has been driven mad with the concept of guilt.
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
The Father gave the Holy Spirit to the wayward Son. And while the Son made his own world, the Holy Spirit made a "real", lovable world back to back, in his name. The Holy Spirit's world is "at hand", seen only with the "eyes" of the Holy Spirit, which are the "eyes of Christ". You cannot see it yet, so you are still blind in your "sins", leading the blind. Remove your world from your sight before attempting to address the world's "sins". You see the world you see because you deny Christ [Reality], choosing to see sin [insanity] instead. The Holy Spirit gives his world to the Son of God. If you do not identify with the Son, then your baptism is not yet complete, and you have more mind washing to accomplish.
17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
The Holy Spirit stands in for the Son of God, who makes the world as his mind wanders into darkness, saving his inheritance for him, anytime he chooses to return to the Light.
18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
As I've said, you are standing in hell aleady condemned...because you have thrown away knowledge [think: your inheritance] denying you are the Son of God ...and becoming every creeping thing, time, man...everything you are not. *Our Father* has only one Son, one Kingdom, one Creation. What then is this "earth"? Who is this "the universe" which so arrogantly usurps the ONLY Creation? It must be hell. It must be the only Son...masked and mad with guilt.
There are a number of Christians that have regular sin in
their lives.
Not really. By the time you are the "son of man", you are a robot. You do not "sin". You follow a script, written by the idol who made "you". It sets you up to look bad, accusing you of guilt all the while. And as you accept his judgment, you condemning yourself and your brothers to hell with you.
You made the idol after you "sinned". You sinned once, once denying you are the Son of God...disbelieving in Christ [Reality]. Walking away from Christ [Self, Reality], you made a fantasy world, replacing *our Father* with one of your own making. This other father gives you what *Our Father* cannot/will not give you: Special love. *Our Father* loves all equally. Only in a fantastically mad world of unreality will "god" give you special love. It is this specialness that has betrayed you, and made hell out of Heaven.
The definition of "sin" is the denial of Christ. This scenario, if at all, took place before the foundation of the world. Before the foundation of the world, there was the Father and his only Son, and his Son's "Son"...all equals, all the same, all unlimited in power. The world begins as the Father's only Son "leaves" the Kingdom, to wander off as anything but the Son of God, denying himself, and therefor denying he is his Father's Son. This is the only "sin", and it is only a "sin" if it is believed to be true, unchangeable, and worthy of punishment. It is not. It is a *mistake* calling for correction. It is not a "sin" demanding death. It is the god-of-this-world [an idol] which demands the death of the Son of God. Unable to kill mind or spirit, the idol schemes to possess the Son's mind, transforming him into "flesh". And now the Son can be killed. That is all that "flesh" is for. It is born to die. That is all.
Christians maintain a belief in "sin" to avoid the truth about innocence. This serves to put Heaven off, shoving it into the future...prefering death to Life. Only minds possessed would prefer hell to Heaven, whitewashing hell with fancy names like "mother earth", "the universe", "life"...ect.
It is unfortunate for them. But if they are following
Jesus as best they can it doesn't matter at all. They have
accepted the sacrifice of Jesus, therefore their sins are
continuously washed away.
No. If you accept sacrifice, your sins remain. If you accept mercy, your sins are washed away. Continually washing your mind with the words of Truth, you emerge innocent, having never sinned. How is that? Sin is a belief in your mind. It is a lie, and it has brainwashed you. It must be washed out with Truth. The Holy Spirit brings the words of Truth to this world from beyond. If you are baptized into the Holy Spirit, you will emerge as the "beloved Son" of God. If you are not emerging as the innocent Son of God who has never sinned, you must have been baptized by "the accuser" and/or his minions.
This is one reference to the blood of Christ. There are others.
The "life" of Christ is his mind, which you are using to assert your existence as "flesh"...the *son of man*. As you do so, you arrogantly drain the life-blood of Christ for your own purposes...sacrificing Christ that "you" may "live". This is not *Our Father's* Will. So you must not exist. Any semblence of existence comes at the expense of your own mind. So it is a sacrifice of Self, which is the sacrifice of Christ. You are anti-christ, sucking the life-blood out of your own Reality, to support the fantasy of form.
17Since you call on a Father who judges each man's work impartially, live your lives as strangers here in reverent fear. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.
*Our Father* does not judge. But the god-of-this-world does, whom the early wanderers from *the Way* worshipped and feared as an empty way of life that was handed down by their forefathers...evolving into a "Judeo-Christian" empty way of life. *Our Father* loves impartially, blessing only. The god-of-this-world loves partially [therefore not at all], blessing AND cursing. It demands blessing in return, or else it curses. This does not describe *Our Father*. Sweet and bitter water cannot come from the same stream.
Consider the blood of Christ to mean, "mind of Christ". If you have the mind of Christ, you are innocent, because you accept the Truth. Innocence is the truth. Guilt is a lie. The world does not exist, so the Truth is indeed without blemish or defect.
Christianity is NOT a works religion. Some think it is. No one
can do enough good to earn their way into Heaven.
This is because no one could ever do enough "evil" to lose their place in Heaven, from which they came. The world is without consequence, either bad or "good". What matters is the Truth. What is the Truth? The Truth is you ARE the Son of God, perfect, without blemish. The world is a muddy mask over your eyes, blinding you to the Truth. Wash the mud off your eyes in the water of the words of Truth, and you will see that because you could not "lose" Heaven, you cannot "earn" it back. It is yours. Believe it or not. Believe it not, and you remain blind, having shut your eyes upon Reality, before the foundation of the world.
Jesus
