Belief in God and Market Perspective
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In other words; if the CAUSE of an event, (such as the Big Bang), is not known, then you or anybody else gets to put forth their belief and it then becomes incumbent on non-believers to disprove these beliefs!?!?!??!
If this is what you are saying then:
- if you are a Christian then I challenge you to disprove that 4 billion non-Christians are wrong.
- if you are a Muslim then I challenge you to prove that 4.35 billion non-Muslim people are wrong.
- if you are Hindu then I challenge you to prove that 5.0 billion non-Hindu people are wrong
In short, stating a belief does NOT establish it as a fact. You do not not get to assert a belief as a fact just to 'fill in' gaps for knowledge that we do not know. Learn how to say/accept: "I don't know the answer to that question". It's O.K. to not know.
What if the cause of the big bang(s) was a...belief!
After all, it is not "known".
What is not known is a belief, yes?
So, what if the big bang puts forth a belief? Are we supposed to believe it? Could we say that it is incumbent on those who do not believe in the effects of the big bang to disprove it's reality? What if a non-believer were to, say, rise from the dead? What then?
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no sw and Stu - you are changing the burden of proof.... and it is illogical to do so.
Sw and Stu you state there is no God. How do you know? how can you prove it.
Lets go back a few years.
Would a rational scientist declare there is no life on other planets?
Or would a rational scientist say there is no evidence of life on other planets.
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Stu you are so blind to the facts you will not even admit on other threads I have given you quotes from top scientists which say that there is evidence of design.
Please do a search and then come back here and deny it.
Sw and Stu you state there is no God. How do you know? how can you prove it.
Lets go back a few years.
Would a rational scientist declare there is no life on other planets?
Or would a rational scientist say there is no evidence of life on other planets.
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Stu you are so blind to the facts you will not even admit on other threads I have given you quotes from top scientists which say that there is evidence of design.
Please do a search and then come back here and deny it.
You must be kidding right? Your argument "does not require anyone to prove a negative".!??
No way .Your rationality can't be that far gone, surely!? sheesh.
Just in case , see if this might help ...
"They simply can not prove there is no creator.? "
Yes I can jem. I can prove to you there is no creator.
I can prove categorically, without doubt, without question, there is no creator.
Now, ... you prove I cannot.
Fair enough. It's what you are doing. Asking others to prove a negative.
So go on. I have proof there is no Creator. Prove I don't. Prove the negative.
...or is it that the onus, the burden of proof, is on me ? I make the assertion therefore I provide the proof. I do not require others to prove the opposite of my assertion or in other words, prove the negative.
So when you say "They simply cannot prove there is no creator ", you are asking for the contrary of your argument (that there is a creator) to be proved. That is asking to prove the negative.
I must say in regard to the topic of this thread, it is hard to see how Market Perspective can be in any way improved by a belief in God mentality. Especially one which denies what it is actually doing and at the same time contradicts straightforward understanding in a way that does not allow a sensible and reasonable approach to reasoning. I mention no names.
jem!!
Only if the entire universe had been searched, however the sensory system cannot be trusted, data may or may not real. Scientists will always be slaves to data manipulation. Maybe its done by god, it could be done by humans, aliens is another possibility. Luck is often the deciding factor, if ur lucky u believe in god, if not everything is a conspiracy.
Nope, that won't do, even if you are a wizard multi-tasker. Some of these religions send you straight to hell for worshipping false gods. So I don't think their particular god will look upon his having to share the limelight too kindly. Therefore, hedging is not a viable strategy. You will have to take an outright position and then...pray.
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