Belief in evolution by country - % of population

Quote from Ricter:

...The Bible does change...
But wait. Isn't the bible the word of god? Has god changed his mind and, if so, has he spoken directly to those who changed the bible on his behalf? And who are those chosen ones with whom he communed directly to make such changes? Also, does that mean god got it wrong the first time? Are there any other changes coming down the pike? If so, has he yet announced which blessed scribes will do the necessary? So many questions...
 
Quote from maxpi:

Here you stupid, indoctrinated bastard: The department with the evolution theory. They say that the Geologic Column is calibrated by the Strata, then elwewhere they say that the Strata is calibrated by the Geologic Column... the definition of calibration is comparison to a known standard, there is no known standard in that mess, it's fantasy calibration. Then for an encore they toss out all readings by instruments that don't match their fantasy calibration and claim thet they are "science" and everybody else is "religion"... they can suck my nasdaq...
As usual, you're wrong. :D

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn/

No matter what creationist claim your ilk makes, it always boils down to misrepresenting verified facts to "prove" your claim. That shit doesn't work on grown-ups, dumbass. :p
 
Quote from Ricter:

"No clue" is incorrect. The Bible does change. Shall we now discuss significance? No. I was only addressing your implication that religion never changes.

My point is still that in this religion vs. science debate, evidence as defined by science is being trotted out as the way to resolve the debate.
So how would you define evidence to resolve this?
 
Quote from kut2k2:

So how would you define evidence to resolve this?

I resolve it by considering the ends. I don't use science to comfort the sick or dying, and I don't use religion to put a plane in the air. I'm ok with having two (or more) tools in my kit. I'm not struggling with "which one is better".
 
Quote from Ricter:

I resolve it by considering the ends. I don't use science to comfort the sick or dying, and I don't use religion to put a plane in the air. I'm ok with having two (or more) tools in my kit. I'm not struggling with "which one is better".

if you were very sick which would give you more comfort? which one is better?
1. a nurse comes in and says we have the latest cure for your disease and the finest doctor in this hospital?

2. nurse comes in and says. we have no doctors or medicine but we have a preacher that can come in and pray for you?
 
Quote from vhehn:

if you were very sick which would give you more comfort? which one is better?
1. a nurse comes in and says we have the latest cure for your disease and the finest doctor in this hospital?

2. nurse comes in and says. we have no doctors or medicine but we have a preacher that can come in and pray for you?

I may be the kind of person who'd like hear from both science and religion. Such people appear to be numerous. Thankfully, we don't have to choose, such a scenario is merely an exercise in reductionism.
 
Quote from Ricter:

I may be the kind of person who'd like hear from both science and religion. Such people appear to be numerous. Thankfully, we don't have to choose, such a scenario is merely an exercise in reductionism.
If you were gravely ill and you could see both a priest and a doctor, but only one at a time, who would you want to see first?
 
Quote from Gabfly1:

If you were gravely ill and you could see both a priest and a doctor, but only one at a time, who would you want to see first?

Can we use "terminally ill" instead?
 
Quote from Ricter:

Can we use "terminally ill" instead?
The terminally ill almost always suffer considerably and for a length of time. Would you rather see the priest before a palliative care specialist?
 
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