Quote from kjkent1:
That was quite a mouthful, however it does not address my question or the issue.
Exodus 21 deals with the ownership of other persons as property. If God's law is perfect, as is stated in Psalms 19:7, and Moses gave the Hebrews God's law concerning the treatment those persons who were the property of others, then that law must also be perfect.
The inescapable conclusion to be drawn is that God condones the ownership of people as property of other people, i.e., slavery.
If this were not the case, then God would have commanded that the Hebrews set their slaves free, just as Pharaoh was commanded to set the Hebrews free.
But, God did not do so. Therefore, God condoned the Hebrews' ownership of slaves.
During the U.S. Civil War, advocates of the antebellum movement used Exodus 21 as a rationale for the maintenance of slavery. This same rationale continued to prevail in the South and has been advanced by many political leaders throughout U.S. history as a moral theory which advocates that slavery is condoned by God, under the Rules stated in Exodus 21.
The rationale continues to this day within the membership of the Ku Klux Klan.
My opinion of the above is simply that the Bible is not a perfect rendering, but is rather an interpretation by the men who wrote it, and therefore it cannot be read as the literal revealed truth of the Almighty.
If you are sincerely interested in teaching me what you believe and why, I would appreciate your direct response to the issue, rather than by means of allegory.
Quote from Thunderdog:
Aapex,
Do you really believe that your ridiculously long, consecutive posts are actually being read? If so, then you truly are a man of faith.
Also, is it just coincidence that you happen to be papering over ZZZzzzzzzz's multiple gaffs in this thread, thereby effectively burying them?
*Sigh*Quote from Aapex:
You do not understand ancient history nor the ancient customs of that day. Get back to me when you fully comprehend the times of the old testament. Until then you will continue to rationalize the text and force your opinion on it rather than extracting from it.
You have shown that you don't read the Bible and you don't understand it. You should first study up on a subject instead of comming off as if you know it all and have studied to show yourself approved.
Quote from Thunderdog:
Bullshit. My views occasionally coincide with yours. However, when I make an error and become aware of it, I acknowledge it. I have seen you either ignore or blatantly misinterpret legitimate counter arguments presented by others when you are painted into a corner, thereby wiggling your way out of forum discussions like a slippery salamander. You always have the last word, but it does not always have anything to do with the salient matter at hand. You have more posts than anyone here and you have not once acknowledged an error on your part. Enjoy your lipstick.
P.S. If your external life is indeed just lipstick on a pig, then expect to be treated accordingly since that is all others have to go on. Further, if you are implying that how you present yourself externally is materially different than who you really are, then you are a hypocrite and not worth engaging in an exchange. I guess that was an error on my part.
And nothing quite like another sidestep on your part. Parry and jab, eh? Thank you for confirming, by example, the very thing I accused you of in my post that you quoted.Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
"Bullshit."
Brilliant argument. Brilliant!!! What a logician!!!
LOL......
Nothing if not consistency from TK9.....fallacy, after fallacy.....
Quote from Thunderdog:
And nothing quite like another sidestep on your part. Parry and jab, eh? Thank you for confirming, by example, the very thing I accused you of in my post that you quoted.
Actually, it was you who perfected the ad hominem attack, both here and in other threads. Here, specifically, I refer to pages 3, 4, 5 and, oh look, 10. And now, I will leave you with your rigorous intellectual honesty which you referred to at the top of page 6.Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
...ad hominem..
Quote from Thunderdog:
Actually, it was you who perfected the ad hominem attack, both here and in other threads. Here, specifically, I refer to pages 3, 4, 5 and, oh look, 10. And now, I will leave you with your rigorous intellectual honesty which you referred to at the top of page 6.
P.S. No doubt, your last post is an example of the spirituality by which you live. It is little wonder that you are deeply concerned with human nature. Perhaps you should be equally concerned about your photo collection.
Quote from Aapex:
You do not understand ancient history nor the ancient customs of that day. Get back to me when you fully comprehend the times of the old testament. Until then you will continue to rationalize the text and force your opinion on it rather than extracting from it.
You have shown that you don't read the Bible and you don't understand it. You should first study up on a subject instead of comming off as if you know it all and have studied to show yourself approved.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
"Bullshit."
Brilliant argument. Brilliant!!! What a logician!!!
LOL......
Nothing if not consistency from TK9.....fallacy, after fallacy.....