If knowledge and understanding are just lipstick to you, then you are indeed the pig on which it is lost.
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Human nature has not changed in thousands of years, despite all of the scientific developments.
If you can accept the truth of this knowledge about human nature, and have the understanding of this truth of human nature, then you perhaps can realize that science doesn't have all the answers....they don't have any answers to the important questions of life.
If you can accept the truth of this knowledge about human nature, and have the understanding of this truth of human nature, then you perhaps can realize that science doesn't have all the answers....they don't have any answers to the important questions of life.
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If knowledge and understanding is just lipstick to you, then you are indeed the pig on which it is lost.
Who said it has all the answers? That's just all-or-nothing thinking. (In this regard, may I suggest you refer to Dr. David Burns' Feeling Good Handbook? It deals with mental and emotional issues in a comprehensive, scientific way.)Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Human nature has not changed in thousands of years, despite all of the scientific developments.
If you can accept the truth of this knowledge about human nature, and have the understanding of this truth of human nature, then you perhaps can realize that science doesn't have all the answers....
If you are so contemptuous towards science ("lipstick on pigs"), may I also suggest you go live in a cave and contemplate on the notion of hypocrisy? Specifically, focus on your like minded brethren who are using the products of scientific advancement every single day while simultaneously dismissing its relevance in their lives.
I am sure you know all the self help books, but how much have they done to alter your human nature?
LOL....
Anyway, I have no contempt for science any more than I have for lipstick. They are both cosmetic to the inner life of man.
It is the atheists who have made science a replacement for God, have made it their absolute, and from what I see here at ET, that hasn't done too much to change the situation and condition of human nature at all......
Yet, the atheists continue to smugly and vainly project an air of intellectual superiority....when the fact remains that their intellect is powerless against their own human nature....
LOL....
Anyway, I have no contempt for science any more than I have for lipstick. They are both cosmetic to the inner life of man.
It is the atheists who have made science a replacement for God, have made it their absolute, and from what I see here at ET, that hasn't done too much to change the situation and condition of human nature at all......
Yet, the atheists continue to smugly and vainly project an air of intellectual superiority....when the fact remains that their intellect is powerless against their own human nature....
Quote from Thunderdog:
Who said it has all the answers? That's just all-or-nothing thinking. (In this regard, may I suggest you refer to Dr. David Burns' Feeling Good Handbook? It deals with mental and emotional issues in a comprehensive, scientific way.)
If you are so contemptuous towards science ("lipstick on pigs"), may I also suggest you go live in a cave and contemplate on the notion of hypocrisy? Specifically, focus on your like minded brethren who are using the products of scientific advancement every single day while simultaneously dismissing its relevance in their lives.
First, I should point out that you have also referred to this book in the past in the chat room when I used to visit it. You are familiar with it. You recommended it to others. The irony seems to be lost on you.Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
I am sure you know all the self help books, but how much have they done to alter your human nature?
LOL....
Anyway, I have no contempt for science any more than I have for lipstick.
It is the atheists who have made science a replacement for God, have made it their absolute, and from what I see here at ET, that hasn't done too much to change the situation and condition of human nature at all......
Second, science is not a replacement for God. It simply dismisses much of the nonsensical mysticism that has been spawned by simple ignorance.
And third, since human nature has not changed (which you seem delighted to repeat ad infinitum ad nauseam), then you must also conclude that religion and other such attempts at spirituality have also not made a dent. Religion and blind faith have been around a lot longer than science. What do they have to say for themselves along the lines of human nature? You know, the thing that hasn't changed.
Quote from Thunderdog:
First, I should point out that you have also referred to this book in the past in the chat room when I used to visit it. You are familiar with it. That's the irony.
I refer to lots of stuff, like your being a walking, talking, posting Spell Checker...
Second, science is not a replacement for God. It simply dismisses much of the nonsensical mysticism that has been spawned by simple ignorance.
I agree, there is no replacement for God, but a lot of confused intellectuals think science is a replacment for God.
And third, since human nature has not changed (which you seem delighted to repeat ad infinitum ad nauseam), then you must also conclude that religion and other such attempts at spirituality have also not made a dent. Religion and blind faith have been around a lot longer than science. What do they have to show for themselves along the lines of human nature? You know, the thing that hasn't changed.
Most religions don't say that human nature is changed through religion, but that salvation from human nature is the goal, and achieved though faith in God.
Science offers nothing but lipstick on the pig of human nature....
You recommended the book to others. Still don't see the irony?Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
I refer to lots of stuff, like your being a walking, talking, posting Spell Checker...
...Most religions don't say that human nature is changed through religion, but that salvation from human nature is the goal, and achieved though faith in God.
And if you don't expect religion to change human nature, then why would you place that onus upon science? That's flat out bizarre. And as for seeking salvation from human nature, I think that such people should attend to their guilt issues. (I have just the book for them.) Well adjusted people rejoice in their humanity. Life is lost on those who do not. I actually like the "human nature" of the people I associate with. Happily, you are not among them.
Quote from Thunderdog:
You recommended the book to others. Still don't see the irony?
No, I don't see irony.
I might recommend a facelift to someone who has low self esteem based on their looks, but that doesn't mean I think a face lift deals with human nature, or the problems of human nature....
Science is not a replacement for the problems of human nature, that's the point I am making.
Many people think science will lift people out of human bondage, and the reality is that human bondage, inner bondage continues unchanged....
And if you don't expect religion to change human nature, then why would you place that onus upon science?
I don't place the "onus" on science, I see that scientists are taking up that project on their own, and failing miserably.....
That's flat out bizarre. And as for seeking salvation from human nature, I think that such people should attend to their guilt issues. (I have just the book for them.) I actually like the "human nature" of the people I associate with. Happily, you are not among them.
Okay, now you have expressed your opinion and what you think is bizarre. Nice "logical" argument....
How has that helped you to be redeemed from your own human nature, and the ego centric position that human nature maintains?
Oh yeah, you love your human nature....
LOL...