Been to JAIL yet ?

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Ugh...that's gonna be a tough one.

Ah go ahead and accuse me of lying if you want. :D


I do recall I had the top bunk bed against the wall with no view of the TV. And apparently because I was clean cut, I was told rumor had it I was undercover. Does that help?
 
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Doesn't sound fair to me if what you say is true.

From the outside it seems very odd and open to corruption to have elected officials, such as sherrifs. If Mr average gets elected he is hardly likely to know the job well enough to do it fairly, is he ?

My knowledge of what goes on in the US system is very limited but in the movies the town's rich guy owns the mayor and the sherrif. Tell me this isn't necessarily so. One has to have some faith in justice or is it really for sale ?

I would suggest that you approach what I've stated from the point of view of fabrications. I hope that I can motivate others to observe and record (notes) what goes on in their courtrooms. I would be interested to know if similar things happen in other areas including other "free" countries. If others are reluctant to state in forum, please PM or email me...I do want to know

I have never reviewed the qualifications of Sheriff, but judges are required to have passed the bar and have continuing education every two years.

As to "is justice for sale"...no it has already been sold to corruption within the system, which rewards people through promotions (pay increases), etc...I do know that the City of Atlanta Police department has quotas for traffic cops and any cop not meeting his quota, will be reprimanded, asked to resign or fired. However they officially deny this policy!
 
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Maybe the Christian approach of foregiveness is a bit over stretched ?

Each prisoner costs about $75,000 per year to goal. I dont know how many are 1st degree murderers there are, but a certain saving of money and resources to be had here it seems.

what would you recommend for less serious crimes ?

Sentence them to serve their time in Peruvian or Chinese jails... Much cheaper, much less coddling
 
JoePaterno:Sentence them to serve their time in Peruvian or Chinese jails... Much cheaper, much less coddling.

Great idea!

It reminds me about the old movie where the guy got caught with drugs in Turkey and goes to a jail, where the walk together in circles all day.

Got to love it.
 
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LUCRUM:When I got arrested for DUI back in the mid 90's I was in court for several sessions. What struck me was that ALL of the DUI's, a misdemeanor, were automatically given the max sentence allowed by law. The felons, all of whom I saw plead guilty, got zero jail time and no fine. The ones I remember were a B & E, assault with a deadly and theft.
A few years earlier after I got divorced I was told, because of my ex wife's behavior, by law I could have gotten full custody of both our kids. Only problem was I had the one circuit court judge out of four who NEVER took custody away from a woman no matter how dire the situation for the children.
I did end up with custody years later only after that judge retired.
Yep, seen that too. Many corrupt judges out there. That's why I won't ever, EVER pledge allegiance again.....
"with liberty and justice for all".
BULLSHIT
 
These guys have gotten literally dozens of corrupt judges dethroned and some corrupt cops fired... they have dug up the dirt on some county supervisors too... I know them personally, or did a couple of years back... they had juice with the Bush White House though, not sure it's all working as well for them nowadays... I listened to their wild sounding stories over breakfast a few times, kept an open opinion as always, one day I picked up the local paper and there was an article about how the area didn't have enough judges and was having to import them!!

http://www.bountylicenserecovery.com/
 
OK, very few people on this forum who have ever been stupid enough to do things that would result in being incarcerated.

I have been several times. From the time I was 15 years old I was involved in illegal gambling and all the nasty stuff that goes with it. This was before the explosion of legalized gambling in almost every state in America.

First, it is very easy to get tough on crime when you use rapists and child molestors and murderers as your default inmate. But if you executed everyone of them, you would do very little to cut the ecomomic burden on society. Despite what you see on Law and Order, there just arent that many violent criminals. These crimes are abberations.

The vast majority of people going through the system are drug related. It is ridiculous. In my home state of Illinois, when a non violent offender is sentenced to prison he immediatelly has his sentence cut in half. The next week he is given an automatic 6 months off for good behavior. The basice rational is that it is easier to hold this good time being taken away if the inmate is given it right away.

So lets think about it. If a minor drug felon is given one year, he receives half credit, leaving him 6 months to do in prison. He then receives 6 months good time leaving him a grand total of 0 days to serve!!!!!!! But wait, he cant go home just yet. The prison he is assigned to, which receives, I believe 31 K per year per inmate, holds him for 61 days, which is exactly how long it takes the 31K to arrive from the state government.

What a waste. His cocaine habit has just cost the Government (you) 31 k, plus court costs, police manpower, et cetera. Then he gets some paper, and has to report to a PO that makes around 60K a year.

Oh I forgot, his habit supports 100's of low level runners that make a living selling 20 dollar bags of dope on the street all day. Who then kick up to midlevel gangbangers who make 100's of thousands of dollars a year. That guy protects turf, makes sure people stay in line and murders when needed. Then the money flows to the big importers and even bigger producers, some of who control and corrupt South American governments and some of whom support and fund terrorists. Oh, and some of the Heroin producers are enlisted by the United States government to fight and hold out against the Taliban in the Golden triangle. When the press talks about Afhgan warlords what do you think these guys do for a living?

It gets bigger, the lawyers, from the two bit charlie who walks you through an arraignment for 200 bucks, to the big firm lawyers in London, New York, Hong Kong, and the Channel Islands who set up S.A.'s and Bearer Share corporations that invest in Hedge Funds domiciled in Curacao and the BVI, and ultimately purchase more political power.

The Force of the Drug economy penetrates every strata of society. It all starts and exists only because of the guy who has to have that 20 dollar bag. The government will never legalize drugs because they know it would work to curb crime. They are not dumb, they just like the status qou. It pays for a lot of college educations, country club dues, coops, and everything else.

The sad thing is that noone cares and the people with the power to do something about it don't want it changed.
 
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