Bee Declines

Quote from austinp:

When people think about honeybees, they naturally assume conversation is limited to honey. Actually, honey is just a secondary byproduct of bee production.

Anything that flowers must be pollinated by something in order to produce seeds in the form of fruits, vegetables or grains. A small percentage of flowers are pollinated by wind. Some plants have evolved to host specific insects for the task.

It's estimated that roughly 1/3 of all food product fruits and vegetables are pollinated by honeybees. Bee production is a big part of that. Hives are trucked into and out of farms, orchards and vineyards specifically for pollination. The honey produced is merely a byproduct of the beekeeper's income from providing bees for pollination.

If for whatever reason the honeybee population would collapse, U.S. food production would likewise drop 25% at the very least. We can plant all the fruits and vegetables land will support: but the flowers will fall off unpollinated with no produce formed.

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For example, home gardeners are usually awash in squash by mid-summer. If you leave two zucchini squash on your dashboard with the car locked, someone is liable to break in and leave four more alongside those just to be rid of them.

Last year was the first time I recall planting a usual amount of squash and cucumbers with a very meager yield. We watched flowers blossom as usual, but nil squash or cukes followed. I actually bought some of each vegetable from local stands in the heart of production season, and there wasn't much offered available to public at that.

Experts are stumped as to what has caused a sudden collapse in bee colonies. The solution may be simple or impossible, any degree within that scale. Meanwhile, it does loom as the most potentially serious problem to hit our economy... crude oil shortage is a very distant second when it comes to ALL fruits, grains and meat production intricately tied together.
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Austin;
Curious, on your squash comment;
how diversfied are you, not on your investments, but on
flowering plants/trees which flower much of year.

Acronymn hinted the ''created'' pattern is extremely diverse;
not like the typical monocrop agribusiness/surburban yard, both maybe use plenty of pesticides???????????????:cool:
 
Quote from murray t turtle:

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Austin;
Curious, on your squash comment;
how diversfied are you, not on your investments, but on
flowering plants/trees which flower much of year.

Acronymn hinted the ''created'' pattern is extremely diverse;
not like the typical monocrop agribusiness/surburban yard, both maybe use plenty of pesticides???????????????:cool:


"Created" process...this of itself holds the truth in its entirety. Often I have addressed individuals who challenged my creative line of thinking in such a manner. What would you do if you removed the honey bee from the world's agri-system? Most didn't understand the question. And many haphazardly suggested it would be frivolous, and inconsequential, and irrelevant.
Well we have come full-circle haven't we. Many may think that this a consequence of man's misuse of the earth resources, and I am certain we would agree that this is true in part. And that a possible solution is in the predicated science of man. This is where I disagree.
Man's science appeases to his own self-induced grandizement, whereby he actually alienates himself from this "creative process" that has been alluded to. And in this, imho, is where we find our answer. In any creative process thereby exists the original Creator. And again one could ask what came first the chicken or the egg? And again herein lies the answer, in that it would be folly to isolate one from the other. And who came first man or woman? A single celled amoeba with perhaps some 52 chromosomes is the the bare minimum for life. And yet this minute organism is far more complex than all of man's wisdom combined. Mathematicians have calculated that a haphazard evolution of such a creature would be like a blind man trying to find a golden grain of sand among 1000 galaxies. I might be somewhat of a gambler..but I don't like those odds.

Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote:
All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.
And herein again lies your answer..." if my people which are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then shall I hear from heaven, and forgive their sins, and heal their land."
And herein lies our real answer...quite simple really!
 
All we have to do is Genetically ReModify the modified genetics of the genetically modified genetics of modified genetics of the modified genetics.......



The US is importing millions of dollars worth of Australian bees to pollinate its food crops. US bees are dying from antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria, likely to be the result of widespread genetically modified (GM) crops. At the same time, the Australian Federal government is pushing for the adoption of GM crops here, and is reducing support for Australian beekeepers.
http://www.santostrading.com.au/articles/bees.html

Could genetically modified crops be killing bees?
John McDonald, Special to The Chronicle
Saturday, March 10, 2007

Unlike the more common problems, this new die-off has been virtually instantaneous throughout the country, not spreading at the slower pace of conventional classical disease.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/10/HOG5FOH9VQ1.DTL&feed=rss.homeandgarden
 
Quote from jcrecruit:


All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.
And herein again lies your answer..." if my people which are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then shall I hear from heaven, and forgive their sins, and heal their land."
And herein lies our real answer...quite simple really!

HEAR,HEAR!! Spot on Brother. Great thread AP and posts fellas. I believe the magnitude of this is Biblical and very may well be one of the the "Bowl Judgements" described in the Bible. It has begun....:(

Rennick ( exciled on the Isle of Patmos) out
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

All we have to do is Genetically ReModify the modified genetics of the genetically modified genetics of modified genetics of the modified genetics.......



The US is importing millions of dollars worth of Australian bees to pollinate its food crops. US bees are dying from antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria, likely to be the result of widespread genetically modified (GM) crops. At the same time, the Australian Federal government is pushing for the adoption of GM crops here, and is reducing support for Australian beekeepers.
http://www.santostrading.com.au/articles/bees.html

Could genetically modified crops be killing bees?
John McDonald, Special to The Chronicle
Saturday, March 10, 2007

Unlike the more common problems, this new die-off has been virtually instantaneous throughout the country, not spreading at the slower pace of conventional classical disease.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/10/HOG5FOH9VQ1.DTL&feed=rss.homeandgarden

The whole GMO trend is some really scary stuff. Noone even knows the true effect on consumption of GMO foods and we won't know for a couple generations.

Lot of big money behind GMO, mainly Monsanto, Archer Daniels, Cargill. These guys don't give a crap about bees. If anything, it serves their purpose that the natural ecology is destroyed, since it then forces the farmers to rely on their patented GMO seed.
 
The earth (nature) always seeks a balance, when an imbalance starts and continues over a period of time and is not resolved, the imbalance is dealt with sometimes in the most efficient manner possible. Sometimes that simply means starting over.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:



Lot of big money behind GMO, mainly Monsanto, Archer Daniels, Cargill. These guys don't give a crap about bees. If anything, it serves their purpose that the natural ecology is destroyed, since it then forces the farmers to rely on their patented GMO seed.



interesting theory.
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

All we have to do is Genetically ReModify the modified genetics of the genetically modified genetics of modified genetics of the modified genetics.......



The US is importing millions of dollars worth of Australian bees to pollinate its food crops. US bees are dying from antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria, likely to be the result of widespread genetically modified (GM) crops. At the same time, the Australian Federal government is pushing for the adoption of GM crops here, and is reducing support for Australian beekeepers.
http://www.santostrading.com.au/articles/bees.html

Could genetically modified crops be killing bees?
John McDonald, Special to The Chronicle
Saturday, March 10, 2007

Unlike the more common problems, this new die-off has been virtually instantaneous throughout the country, not spreading at the slower pace of conventional classical disease.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/10/HOG5FOH9VQ1.DTL&feed=rss.homeandgarden


be careful or you'll be branded a conspiracy theorist with these "far fetched ideas".
 
I've also being following these news now for 2 months.

This is scary, sounds like an apocalyptic harbinger. Scary also: ~2 months ago, thousands of birds fell right out of the sky in texas. Maybe, these events are somehow linked.

Has anyone heard yet of a sound theory what causes this?
 
I heard or read that the possible cause could be because of some
kind of ultraviolet or other sun ray that has changed that the bees
use in order to see. It has changed to the point where bees can
no longer see correctly so they can not find their way back to the
hive and can not identify the colors of flowers correctly anymore. So
apparently they are wandering around blind...

It was also suggested that Global Warming might have something
to do with it.

Today while getting ready to mow the lawn, I and one of my sons
watched a few bees flying around really fast like they were panicking.
We had quite a few dandelions in the front yard and I did not see
one bee land on them. I thought it was kind of weird...
 
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