Becoming an atheist

[studentofthemarkets]

Yadda yadda yadda.... abraham, god, jesus, moses, jericho.... who gives a fuck about all this irrelevent religous koolade, is it going to put food on your table?

God does put food on tables sometimes.

"The children are dressed and ready for school. But there is no food for them to eat," the housemother of the orphanage informed George Mueller. George asked her to take the 300 children into the dining room and have them sit at the tables. He thanked God for the food and waited. George knew God would provide food for the children as he always did. Within minutes, a baker knocked on the door. "Mr. Mueller," he said, "last night I could not sleep. Somehow I knew that you would need bread this morning. I got up and baked three batches for you. I will bring it in."

Soon, there was another knock at the door. It was the milkman. His cart had broken down in front of the orphanage. The milk would spoil by the time the wheel was fixed. He asked George if he could use some free milk. George smiled as the milkman brought in ten large cans of milk. It was just enough for the 300 thirsty children.
https://www.christianity.com/church...ller-orphanages-built-by-prayer-11634869.html​

 

[themickey]

God does put food on tables sometimes.

"The children are dressed and ready for school. But there is no food for them to eat," the housemother of the orphanage informed George Mueller. George asked her to take the 300 children into the dining room and have them sit at the tables. He thanked God for the food and waited. George knew God would provide food for the children as he always did. Within minutes, a baker knocked on the door. "Mr. Mueller," he said, "last night I could not sleep. Somehow I knew that you would need bread this morning. I got up and baked three batches for you. I will bring it in."

Soon, there was another knock at the door. It was the milkman. His cart had broken down in front of the orphanage. The milk would spoil by the time the wheel was fixed. He asked George if he could use some free milk. George smiled as the milkman brought in ten large cans of milk. It was just enough for the 300 thirsty children.
https://www.christianity.com/church...ller-orphanages-built-by-prayer-11634869.html​

And just like that, mother didn't need to cook that day either.

 

[themickey]

God does put food on tables sometimes.

"The children are dressed and ready for school. But there is no food for them to eat," the housemother of the orphanage informed George Mueller. George asked her to take the 300 children into the dining room and have them sit at the tables. He thanked God for the food and waited. George knew God would provide food for the children as he always did. Within minutes, a baker knocked on the door. "Mr. Mueller," he said, "last night I could not sleep. Somehow I knew that you would need bread this morning. I got up and baked three batches for you. I will bring it in."

Soon, there was another knock at the door. It was the milkman. His cart had broken down in front of the orphanage. The milk would spoil by the time the wheel was fixed. He asked George if he could use some free milk. George smiled as the milkman brought in ten large cans of milk. It was just enough for the 300 thirsty children.
https://www.christianity.com/church...ller-orphanages-built-by-prayer-11634869.html​

This should be the Church's theme song....the song they play at commencement of each Sunday service.

 

[themickey]

God does put food on tables sometimes.

"The children are dressed and ready for school. But there is no food for them to eat," the housemother of the orphanage informed George Mueller. George asked her to take the 300 children into the dining room and have them sit at the tables. He thanked God for the food and waited. George knew God would provide food for the children as he always did. Within minutes, a baker knocked on the door. "Mr. Mueller," he said, "last night I could not sleep. Somehow I knew that you would need bread this morning. I got up and baked three batches for you. I will bring it in."

Soon, there was another knock at the door. It was the milkman. His cart had broken down in front of the orphanage. The milk would spoil by the time the wheel was fixed. He asked George if he could use some free milk. George smiled as the milkman brought in ten large cans of milk. It was just enough for the 300 thirsty children.
https://www.christianity.com/church...ller-orphanages-built-by-prayer-11634869.html​

I think that's a charming story, gorgeous.
It's little stories like that which keep bringing you back to church - to be entertained.
Maybe one day that could be you, wouldn't that be marvelous, jesus bringing the milkman to the door!
Unfortunately one little piece was left out of the story, stupid sheeple are in this position in the first place because they tithe 10%.

....attempting to educate sheeple.

 

[yank_my doodleitsadandy]

I'm more than halfway through re-watching the video. There is a LOT of evidence that matches the Biblical description from an earlier time period. I thought it flowed together very well, especially considering how difficult it is to date physical evidence from that long ago.

The reason most archaeologists don't accept all this evidence is because they somehow have it in their minds that it must have happened during Ramses II and since there is no evidence from that time period, they say it didn't happen. I checked the chronology given in the video, and if I understand it correctly, the earlier places in the video showing very early timelines are where the time corresponds to the time in Egypt before slavery.

Also, the video does seem to adjust the proposed timeline to the time of 1450 B.C. for the Exodus, which is in alignment with the Bible, if Solomon's reign is not adjusted. I'm not even going to attempt to guess if it could be or not, but there does seem like so much of dating is dependent on other dating being accurate, that it wouldn't surprise me if that could be adjusted to an earlier date, although I read that even David Rohl is not attempting to adjust that.

In another interview David Rohl accepted the Biblical Exodus date of 1447 BC:

Looking further back in time, the biblical Exodus date of 1447 BC now falls in what Egyptologists call the Second Intermediate Period, which is the archaeological period known as the Middle Bronze IIA-IIB. It was at this time that we find a huge city, lying underneath the 19th Dynasty capital of Pi Ramesse (biblical Raamses), known in the contemporary texts as Avaris. And this Middle Bronze Age city, located in the land of Goshen, was teaming with Semites who had initially migrated from Canaan into the Egyptian delta. They then abruptly abandon the city and disappear. About half a century later the city of Jericho is violently destroyed, its walls falling down in an apparent earthquake. Jericho is then burnt to the ground and abandoned for nearly 600 years. All the cities described in the Book of Joshua as being ‘placed under the curse of destruction’ are also destroyed at this time.
https://popular-archaeology.com/article/the-exodus-myth-or-history/
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I've never understood people that make statements like "The reason most archaeologists don't accept all this evidence is because they somehow have it in their minds that it must have happened during Ramses II and since there is no evidence from that time period, they say it didn't happen." How in the hell is it that you know what is in the minds of "most" of anything unless you've actually asked "most" of them. It's the same thinking you people use in defending your fable. No critical thinking what so ever...

 

[studentofthemarkets]

I've never understood people that make statements like "The reason most archaeologists don't accept all this evidence is because they somehow have it in their minds that it must have happened during Ramses II and since there is no evidence from that time period, they say it didn't happen." How in the hell is it that you know what is in the minds of "most" of anything unless you've actually asked "most" of them. It's the same thinking you people use in defending your fable. No critical thinking what so ever...

Actually, that was what several archaeologists said, more or less, in that video (that you didn't watch.)

 

[ph1l]

Actually, that was what several archaeologists said, more or less, in that video (that you didn't watch.)

The range of theories for the events described in Exodus goes from ~2400 BC to 2021 AD720 BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible#In_the_Book_of_Exodus

• Pepi I (24th - 23rd century BC): Emmanuel Anati has argued that the Exodus should be placed between the 24th and the 21st century BC and that Pepi I should be identified as the pharaoh of the Exodus.[2] This theory has not gained acceptance and has received strong criticism from Israeli archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and American Egyptologist James K. Hoffmeier.[3][4]

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• Bakenranef (c. 725-720 BC): Tacitus writes in his Histories that Bakenranef (whom he refers to as "Bocchoris") had expelled the Jews from Egypt because they suffered from a horrible disease and because he was instructed to do so by an oracle of the god Amun.[18] Lysimachus of Alexandria, quoted by Josephus in Against Apion, also identifies the Pharaoh of the Exodus with Bakenranef.[19]

Bonus theory:

 

[studentofthemarkets]

The range of theories for the events described in Exodus goes from ~2400 BC to 2021 AD720 BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible#In_the_Book_of_Exodus

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Bonus theory:

But there is EVIDENCE that goes along with the historical record the Bible gives. And some of that evidence is presented in the video.

Evidence is stronger than a theory, IMHO.

The Biblical account is stronger than evidence or theory.

After all, if something, anything, happens, a lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. That is true with the Exodus as well as other events in life.

 

[yank_my doodleitsadandy]

Actually, that was what several archaeologists said, more or less, in that video (that you didn't watch.)

and did THEY ask MOST people? Let's see how honest you are. Do you tithe as the bible commands? Why not?

 

[studentofthemarkets]

and did THEY ask MOST people? Let's see how honest you are. Do you tithe as the bible commands? Why not?

Whatever I make I give 10% or more to either my church or some other ministry. And that has been true for most of my life. However, I do not believe it should be by compulsion, meaning a requirement, and I don't think giving must be at least 10%. Tithing was a command given in the Old Testament for that time period. The New Testament emphasizes giving, but does not say a specific amount we are required to give. I know this may seem contradictory to some people, but there is a lot of deeper theology involved in what Jesus accomplished at the cross and why Christians today do not live under the commands the Israelite nation lived under. It's rooted in the idea that Jesus became the fulfillment of the law for us because people could not keep the law.

There have been many times when I see the amount I'm giving and think about all the things I would like to do with that money. But then, I'm reminded that God supplies my needs according to His plan. He is the One who gives, and at times, He also takes away. I may go without a thing or two because I gave, but it always comes back to whether or not I love God with all my heart and am I excited to be able to give to further His work? After I remind myself of these things, I am either very happy to give, or if I'm not, I go and spend time with the Lord until my heart is in the right place.

On a side note: I don't usually give much to my church because they have an abundance. I give them some, because I am very thankful for all they do, and it does cost to maintain a building, provide a salary to the pastor and various needs. My church is very open with their finances and has several people that manage the books and the congregation votes on the yearly proposed budget. But I look for ministries that actually need financial help, and sometimes I have given part of my "tithe" to homeless people I randomly come across and feel that this is a valid use of what I have set aside to give back to God.

Ugh...was writing this because I thought the trading opportunity I was waiting for was not quite ready to get into, then I missed it....my fault. I shouldn't allow myself to be distracted while trading, but I was kind of bored. From now on, I need to not check Elite Trader until after I'm done trading for the day. (Hoping that if I write this out, I'll follow through with it. Lack of self-discipline is my biggest problem in trading.)

Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
2 Corinthians 9:7​