Beck: Good for Jews that Jesus didnt come for payback

MarketMasher · Aug 30, 2010

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However, a little objective reasoning is usually more than enough to separate fiction from reality for most people

Your definition of "objective reasoning" sounds authoritative.

Objective reasoning in the 15th century would not have reasoned walking on the moon. It is speaking as "All-Knowing" again, merely in a different form.

I can say "I doubt Batman exists". Can you say "I doubt God exits."?

stu · Aug 30, 2010

Quote from MarketMasher:

I can say "I doubt Batman exists". Can you say "I doubt God exits."?

I can say anything you like. Do you just want me to say things the way you expect to hear them?
I am saying however , I would allow for the possibility of God to exist, in the same way I would allow for the possibility of Batman to exist; Fictionally.

It seems you are saying you allow for the possibility of Batman to exist so that you can allow for the possibility of God to exist; Non-Fictionally.

I can say "I doubt you are being logical".

jem · Aug 30, 2010

Repeating your lie does not make the evidence go away.

I have provided links, cites and scholars manifesting the historicity of Jesus. You did not provide one scholar to support for your fantasy.

The scholarly mainstream not only rejects the myth thesis,[105] but identifies serious methodological deficiencies in the approach.[106] For this reason, many scholars consider engaging proponents of the myth theory a waste of time,[107] comparing it to a professional astronomer having to debate whether the moon is made of cheese.[108] As such, the New Testament scholar James Dunn describes the mythical Jesus theory as a "thoroughly dead thesis""

MarketMasher · Aug 30, 2010

Quote from stu:

I can say anything you like. Do you just want me to say things the way you expect to hear them?
I am saying however , I would allow for the possibility of God to exist, in the same way I would allow for the possibility of Batman to exist; Fictionally.

It seems you are saying you allow for the possibility of Batman to exist so that you can allow for the possibility of God to exist; Non-Fictionally.

I can say "I doubt you are being logical".

And I can say "I doubt you can say 'I doubt God exists.'" because you avoided saying it.

And yet you have not said "I am certain God does not exist."

Can you say either one?

MarketMasher · Aug 30, 2010

Quote from stu:

I can
I am saying however , I would allow for the possibility of God to exist, in the same way I would allow for the possibility of Batman to exist; Fictionally.

If you are certain Batman exists only fictionally, then you must certain. If you say God exists only fictionally, then again, you must be certain.

From whence do you get your certainty?

stu · Aug 31, 2010

Quote from jem:

Repeating your lie does not make the evidence go away.

I have provided links, cites and scholars manifesting the historicity of Jesus. You did not provide one scholar to support for your fantasy.

The scholarly mainstream not only rejects the myth thesis,[105] but identifies serious methodological deficiencies in the approach.[106] For this reason, many scholars consider engaging proponents of the myth theory a waste of time,[107] comparing it to a professional astronomer having to debate whether the moon is made of cheese.[108] As such, the New Testament scholar James Dunn describes the mythical Jesus theory as a "thoroughly dead thesis""

Keep telling yourself that. Denial is all you have left.

Nothing you've provided manifests the historicity of Jesus.
You've reduced yourself to childishly repeating a whinge that like all your other cut & paste nonsense, still provides no historicity for Jesus.

stu · Aug 31, 2010

Quote from MarketMasher:

And I can say "I doubt you can say 'I doubt God exists.'" because you avoided saying it.

And yet you have not said "I am certain God does not exist."

Can you say either one?

Why do you want me to say things that don't even fit with what I have already explained?

Ricter · Aug 31, 2010

Quote from MarketMasher:

If you are certain Batman exists only fictionally, then you must certain. If you say God exists only fictionally, then again, you must be certain.

From whence do you get your certainty?

He can feel his certainty. Which makes him religious. ; )

stu · Aug 31, 2010

Quote from MarketMasher:

If you are certain Batman exists only fictionally, then you must certain. If you say God exists only fictionally, then again, you must be certain.

From whence do you get your certainty?

I must be certain.?? You are certain I must be certain? Or are you certain I am not?......

First off it was absolutes with you, now it's absolutes of certainty.

With your head in a bucket of absolutes and certainty, how will you comprehend anything outside ?

My argument is there are no more substantial reasons to think God / Jesus exists in reality than Batman does.

So how come you're suggesting rather absurd things such as...because of absolutes and certainty, you can't be sure Batman is only a fictional character in a DC comic ? Really!?

Requiring preconditioned references to absolutes of certainty has apparently created a fallacy.
From it you have made the rather illogical argument ... Batman could exist ... therefore â¦ God could exist !

So do you really doubt whether or not Jews or Romans could kill a fictional figure ?

MarketMasher · Aug 31, 2010

Quote from stu:

I must be certain.?? You are certain I must be certain? Or are you certain I am not?......

First off it was absolutes with you, now it's absolutes of certainty.

With your head in a bucket of absolutes and certainty, how will you comprehend anything outside ?

My argument is there are no more substantial reasons to think God / Jesus exists in reality than Batman does.

So how come you're suggesting rather absurd things such as...because of absolutes and certainty, you can't be sure Batman is only a fictional character in a DC comic ? Really!?

Requiring preconditioned references to absolutes of certainty has apparently created a fallacy.
From it you have made the rather illogical argument ... Batman could exist ... therefore â¦ God could exist !

So do you really doubt whether or not Jews or Romans could kill a fictional figure ?

You state your opposition to absolutes - but your argument is states AS an absolute.

"So do you really doubt whether or not Jews or Romans could kill a fictional figure"

Are you certain he was fictional? Absolutely? Or not?

Or do you make a claim without making a claim? In other words, you are preaching while claiming nothing.