Bay Area Real Estate Market

Quote from Pabst:

Don't be fooled into thinking that SoFla is cheap per se'. In Miami Beach, ft. Lauderdale, Palm Beach, Jupiter and Stewart, it's amazing how little $750,000 will get you. Newer construction or rehabbed homes on deepwater lots are 2m and up. What makes SoFla's appreciation so startling is the fact that this is an area with NO jobs! Yea there's prop firms and hedge funds and the occasional Latin American bank but their ain't no software guys bidding up Broward/Dade/PBC. It's all NY/NJ money coming for the climate and the amenities.

I posted a "typical" Lauderdale intercoastal listing.

http://realestate.yahoo.com/display...0278e936&cr=&cpcy=&fullnodeid=750007014&intl=

Yes but take a good look at that house, 5600sq ft, on the water, and that location is tops.......further....just look at the statistics on the same site: http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neig...613+Solar+Isle+Drive&c=Fort+Lauderdale&s=FL&z

note ft. lauderdale income and household expenditure statistics...WELL above the national average.
 
Quote from spyderman:

Yes but take a good look at that house, 5600sq ft, on the water, and that location is tops.......further....just look at the statistics on the same site: http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neig...613+Solar+Isle+Drive&c=Fort+Lauderdale&s=FL&z

note ft. lauderdale income and household expenditure statistics...WELL above the national average.

That home is kick ass. Did you guys see the slideshow? For 750k that is not bad. Considering for 750k in California you would get a house half that size, not on the water and certainly not a year old. And probably not even in a great neighborhood.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

That home is kick ass. Did you guys see the slideshow? For 750k that is not bad. Considering for 750k in California you would get a house half that size, not on the water and certainly not a year old. And probably not even in a great neighborhood.

Mav that home is 3.2mil not 750K!!
 
Quote from Maverick74:

That home is kick ass. Did you guys see the slideshow? For 750k that is not bad. Considering for 750k in California you would get a house half that size, not on the water and certainly not a year old. And probably not even in a great neighborhood.

That "typical" FL house is listed at $3,200,000. With that kind of money, you can buy some amazing stuff in SoCal.

In Florida, you have to endure the humidity, the mosquitos, and T-storms. Unless you have to work there, it's just not worth it.
 
Quote from Pabst:

Mav that home is 3.2mil not 750K!!

Oh, my bad. LOL. I saw spyderman's post about 750k and I thought he was referring to that house. I was going to say, that's a steal at 750k. LOL.

Actually it's not that bad of a price at 3.2 million.
 
Quote from NYSEscalpa:

It is insane what places are going for in Southern California. I am thinking of buying a house in the San Diego area and have full realtor access to the MLS through a friend. I can check past sales with sales price, old list prices, new list, pending sales, etc. The point is, I have seen condos- 2BR, 1100 Sq. ft going for around $400K in the greater San Diego area- move close to the coast- La Jolla, PB, MB and that same condo is now $500-$550K. For that same amount of money, 6-8 months ago, you could have moved to North County, got @2000 sq. ft house for around 490-515. Now that same house is @575K (asking price) and it is turning into a sellers market as more people go north to find better value for their money- would you rather have a house with a yard and view (and a 30 min commute to work) or a shitty condo close to work and the hot spots? So, it seems like there is a ripple effect going on in San Diego as more people are pushing out from the citys center trying to buy a better place than the $400K fixer upper with no parking. These people are driving up home values in the outlying areas and as others noted, clearly demand far exceeds supply, fueled by low mortgage rates. The real conundrum with the San Diego area is if you are thinking of buying a home, when is the right time to do it? I am seriously thinking about buying in the next month and if rates start to rise, I can sell and either get some equity out or at the worst break even. I can finance it interest only with no prepayment penalty, so if rates do start to rise, I can switch it over to a longer term ARM like a 5 or a 7 year, as they carry lower rates and this would be a starter home. Conversely, I have also thought that home prices are so inflated here, what is the real upside potential, especially in an environment where everyone expects interest rates to rise inside of 2 years? WHEN rates rise, people with ARMs that have become variable are screwed and I think we could see more selling of properties as these people realize that they are in way too big of a house for their budget, now that the mortgage pymt has jumped way up. This would shift the balance as more homes came on the mkt and property values would drop maybe 10-15%. The reason is demand will have dropped off with a corresponding rise in rates on mortgages. So, If I waited maybe a year, I could pick up a house at a discount. Then again, San Diego shows no signs of slowing down as far as growth, so it is a tough question as to what to do in the San Diego area??

wait to buy real estate or buy real estate and wait?????????

Answer - find the best possible location, given your work, lifestyle, and other preferences. Then, buy the best property you can afford without overstretching.

A downturn is nothing to fear, unless you cannot meet the repayments. The reason is that while your place may fall 20-25%, the next place you want to trade up to will also fall that amount. So if your $300k condo falls to $240k, then $500k houses will fall to $400k. You will net a saving of $100k-$60k=$40k. So you actually profit if prices fall, and you intend to trade up.

Now imagine if you don't buy. Every $1 that price rise, is money out of your pocket.

I had a similar problem a few years back, as I could not get a mortgage in my first couple of years trading. I wanted to buy but did not have the finance. After 3 years, I regretted not having got in earlier. But I realised that I was effectively short property, as I did not own anywhere. I was not flat, because I needed somewhere to live - I was actually short, in a boom market. The only thing to do when you are short a rising market is to cover.

My advice is find your best possible home or apt, and just go and buy the bloody thing. Stop posting on here and start pounding the sidewalks. With long-term rates so low, you can finance at attractive terms, making default in a downturn highly unlikely.
 
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