Barrack Obama's future: Disgrace and Exile

[Lucrum]

Quote from Gabfly1:

"Stimulous?"

No doubt, written by someone who'd like to dismantle the Department of Education.

More likely someone who is a product of the Department of Education.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Range Rover:


If I recall correctly when Bush was looking for unity for the Iraq war he was told to go pound salt

really? why dont you go see how many countries supported the coalition when the US invaded Iraq.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Range Rover:

Under Obama



UN approves 'unprecedented' sanctions against North Korea over nuclear test

Resolution passed unanimously by security council bans all weapons exports from the country

Friday 12 June 2009 19.22 BST


The United Nations security council has punished North Korea over last month's underground nuclear test by imposing new sanctions, risking potential flashpoints at sea as it called on all members of the international community to stop and search its ships for weapons.

The resolution, which unusually was unanimous, bans all weapons exports from North Korea and the import of all but small arms. Securing a unanimous resolution shows the extent of the anger within the Chinese government over last month's nuclear test. Normally it is difficult for the US, Britain and France, all members of the security council, to persuade China and, to a lesser extent, Russia to take a tough line against North Korea.

The US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, described the resolution as "unprecedented". She said that the sanctions regime has "teeth that will bite".

China strongly urged Pyongyang to promote denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. China's envoy, Zhang Yesui, said it showed the "firm opposition" of the international community to North Korea's nuclear weapons ambitions.















Russia prohibiting weapons sales to Iran

September 22, 2010|By the CNN Wire Staff

Russia blocked weapons sales to Iran on Wednesday because of U.N. sanctions against the Islamic republic.

President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree that prohibits "the transit across Russia, including by air, the removal from Russia to Iran, and the transfer to Iran outside Russia of any combat tanks, armored personnel carriers, large-caliber artillery systems, warplanes, attack helicopters, military vessels, missiles or missile systems as defined by the United Nations Register of Conventional Arms, S-300 surface-to-air missile systems, or materiel and spare parts used for all of the above."


The decree was published on the Kremlin website.

This comes after Russian media reports that Moscow has decided not to sell S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran because they are subject to U.N. Security Council sanctions,

"A decision has been made not to supply S-300s to Iran as they are definitely subject to the sanctions," Armed Forces Chief of Staff Gen. Nikolai Makarov said, according to the state-run RIA-Novosti news agency. "There has been an instruction from the country's leadership to stop the deliveries, and we are obeying it."

Makarov didn't give a definite response on whether the contract between Iran and Russia on those deliveries will be terminated. However, he said, "we'll see. Everything depends on Iran's behavior," according to RIA-Novosti.

Russia froze the contract with Iran on the S-300 missiles this year after the latest U.N. Security Council resolution imposing sanctions on Iran.














Russia, China back Iran sanctions

by Anna Arutunyan, Evgeniya Chaykovskaya at 10/06/2010 19:37


Russia and China have backed a new set of sanctions on Iran in the United Nations Security Council over the country’s refusal to negotiate about its suspected nuclear weapons programme.

The sanctions are the toughest yet, despite a move by Russia and China to soften them – freezing the assets of 40 additional companies and organisations linked to the country, and subjecting 40 Iranian officials to an asset freeze and travel ban.

Russia’s and China’s votes at the UN Security Council have now hampered their relations with Iran.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad conspicuously spurned Thursday’s summit in Tashkent of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), of which Iran is an observer – a move linked to member states China and Russia backing the UN sanctions.

Russia moved to freeze a contract to deliver S-300 air defence missiles to Iran, an unidentified arms industry source told Interfax, in apparent compliance with the new sanctions.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/26/3049041.htm?section=world

Russia operates the reactor for Iran, and supplies the the fuel.

I can cut and paste, too.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Range Rover:

No.My point is Bush wasn't this feared and respected President that his supporters make him out to be.

Strong nations didn't gave a crap about Bush .They knew he would pick on weak countries like Iraq and Afghanistan,but the real threats like Korea with their million man army that would have fought to the death he only wanted to ignore them like they didn't exist

wait, what was the word you used? oh yeah, "Speculation."

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

really? why dont you go see how many countries supported the coalition when the US invaded Iraq.

Bush duped Blair,the only real supporter



The number of troops each country sent.I would say just enough to keep US ally status and the benefits that come with it


Australia: 2,000
Romania: 730 peak
El Salvador: 380 peak
Estonia: 40 troops
Bulgaria: 485 peak
Moldova: 24 peak
Albania: 240 troops
Ukraine: 1,650 peak
Denmark: 545 peak
Czech Republic: 300 peak
South Korea: 3,600
Japan: 600 troops
Tonga: 55 troops
Azerbaijan: 250 peak
Singapore: 175 offshore
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak
Macedonia: 77 peak
Latvia: 136 peak
Poland: 200 invasion
Kazakhstan: 29 troops
Armenia: 46 troops
Mongolia: 180 peak
Georgia: 2,000 peak
Slovakia: 110 peak
Lithuania: 120 peak
Italy: 3,200 peak
Norway: 150 troops
Hungary: 300 troops
Netherlands: 1,345
Portugal: 128 troops
New Zealand: 61 troops
Thailand: 423 troops
Philippines: 51 troops
Honduras: 368 troops
Dominican Republic: 302 troops
Spain: 1,300 troops
Nicaragua: 230 troops
Iceland: 2 troops <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 2 TROOPS LOL !!!

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/26/3049041.htm?section=world

Russia operates the reactor for Iran, and supplies the the fuel.

I can cut and paste, too.

They built it for them under Bush so its not like Bush stopped them

Under Bush-Russia supplies reactor,no tough sanctions against Iran,Russia sells Iran weapons


Under Obama-Russia supplies reactor,Russia agrees to tough sanctions against Iran,Russia agrees to stop weapon sales to Iran


Obama 2-1
Bush 0-3

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Range Rover:

Bush duped Blair,the only real supporter



The number of troops each country sent.I would say just enough to keep US ally status and the benefits that come with it


Australia: 2,000
Romania: 730 peak
El Salvador: 380 peak
Estonia: 40 troops
Bulgaria: 485 peak
Moldova: 24 peak
Albania: 240 troops
Ukraine: 1,650 peak
Denmark: 545 peak
Czech Republic: 300 peak
South Korea: 3,600
Japan: 600 troops
Tonga: 55 troops
Azerbaijan: 250 peak
Singapore: 175 offshore
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak
Macedonia: 77 peak
Latvia: 136 peak
Poland: 200 invasion
Kazakhstan: 29 troops
Armenia: 46 troops
Mongolia: 180 peak
Georgia: 2,000 peak
Slovakia: 110 peak
Lithuania: 120 peak
Italy: 3,200 peak
Norway: 150 troops
Hungary: 300 troops
Netherlands: 1,345
Portugal: 128 troops
New Zealand: 61 troops
Thailand: 423 troops
Philippines: 51 troops
Honduras: 368 troops
Dominican Republic: 302 troops
Spain: 1,300 troops
Nicaragua: 230 troops
Iceland: 2 troops <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 2 TROOPS LOL !!!

has nothing to do with troop count. support is measured in terms of policy, voice and yes, troops. but not only troops.

still, the fact that bush managed to convince all those countries to provide military assistance to an unjust war (and yes, i believe it was unjust) is an accomplishment.

even if you don't want to admit it.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Range Rover:

They built it for them under Bush so its not like Bush stopped them

Under Bush-Russia supplies reactor,no tough sanctions against Iran,Russia sells Iran weapons


Under Obama-Russia supplies reactor,Russia agrees to tough sanctions against Iran,Russia agrees to stop weapon sales to Iran


Obama 2-1
Bush 0-3

so your score above is based on only the events in your inclusion? how convenient that must be. incidentally, the reactor was finished while obama was in office (he was unable to get them to stop).

just curious, what weapons did russia sell iran during the bush years? was it the same stuff the russians have been selling during the obama years? (helicopters, etc) because they still sell them, genius.

they may have canceled the advanced weapons, but the arms are still flowing. your statement "russia agrees to stop weapon sales" is not 100% accurate, is it.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

has nothing to do with troop count. support is measured in terms of policy, voice and yes, troops. but not only troops.

still, the fact that bush managed to convince all those countries to provide military assistance to an unjust war (and yes, i believe it was unjust) is an accomplishment.

even if you don't want to admit it.

Those countries sent a token amount of troops to stay friends with the US.Most of those countries get foreign aid from the US and when a disaster strikes they will need the US.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Tsing Tao:



just curious, what weapons did russia sell iran during the bush years? was it the same stuff the russians have been selling during the obama years? (helicopters, etc) because they still sell them, genius.

Quite a bit more then helicopters





Russia, Iran Defend Weapons Deal

Saturday, December 03, 2005

MOSCOW —

Russia's weapons sales to Iran are purely for defensive purposes, a government spokesman said Saturday, in response to reports that Russia was selling $1 billion worth of weapons to Iran.

The news reports said Russia was selling Iran advanced missiles and other systems, but the Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mikhail Kamynin, did not comment on specifics, saying in a statement only that they were "exclusively defensive weapons."

Kamynin said the sales fully complied with nonproliferation commitments and Russian law.

The statement appeared timed to head off the heated reaction expected from the United States after Russian media reported Friday that officials had signed contracts in November that would send up to 30 Tor-M1 missile systems to Iran over the next two years.

The Interfax news agency said the Tor-M1 system could identify up to 48 targets and fire at two targets simultaneously at a height of up to 20,000 feet.

A high-ranking Iranian official downplayed the deal, telling the official Islamic Republic News Agency on Saturday that Iran buys arms from many countries and would not stop.

"Iran's and Russia's military cooperation is not a complicated issue," said Ali Larijani, secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council. "It existed before, and there was no ban on it."

On Friday, Israel carried out a successful test of its Arrow missile defense system, intercepting and destroying a missile similar to Iran's long-range Shahab-3.

Israel considers Iran its biggest threat, and does not believe the Muslim theocracy's claims that its nuclear program is peaceful. Israeli concerns were heightened recently after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad urged that Israel be "wiped off the map."