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Barrack Obama's future: Disgrace and Exile
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you're not seeing the forest through the trees (as usual). bush's leadership (either right or wrong) is not judged by the handful of rogue countries that rocked the boat. you judge it by the many countries that followed the US lead (though Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran sanctions, etc. and further on economically not just militarily.)
say what you want about bush (and there are plenty of negatives) but not too many countries told him to go pound salt when he visited them looking for unity. i dont know that i can say the same for obama on his latest asian tour.
no 9-11 through the presidencies of any other president as well. should we take that to mean all of them were successes too? am i to understand you're blaming the georgian invasion on bush too? you are quite the looney, arent you. shall we list all the "terror" events since obama has been in the white house? (shootings, etc). are we to say they are obama's fault? of course not.
as for china taking a harder stance, haha...and russia? you must mean them taking a harder stance on iran by helping to build the nuclear plant and recycling their fuel.
can you do me a favor and do some research on the subject before entering a debate on it? we've been through this before, you and i. you dont want to take the time to read up on any subject, you just want to talk like you know them cold.
I wouldn't call Iran and Korea building nukes simply rocking the boat
If I recall correctly when Bush was looking for unity for the Iraq war he was told to go pound salt
Under Obama
UN approves 'unprecedented' sanctions against North Korea over nuclear test
Resolution passed unanimously by security council bans all weapons exports from the country
Friday 12 June 2009 19.22 BST
The United Nations security council has punished North Korea over last month's underground nuclear test by imposing new sanctions, risking potential flashpoints at sea as it called on all members of the international community to stop and search its ships for weapons.
The resolution, which unusually was unanimous, bans all weapons exports from North Korea and the import of all but small arms. Securing a unanimous resolution shows the extent of the anger within the Chinese government over last month's nuclear test. Normally it is difficult for the US, Britain and France, all members of the security council, to persuade China and, to a lesser extent, Russia to take a tough line against North Korea.
The US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, described the resolution as "unprecedented". She said that the sanctions regime has "teeth that will bite".
China strongly urged Pyongyang to promote denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. China's envoy, Zhang Yesui, said it showed the "firm opposition" of the international community to North Korea's nuclear weapons ambitions.
Russia prohibiting weapons sales to Iran
September 22, 2010|By the CNN Wire Staff
Russia blocked weapons sales to Iran on Wednesday because of U.N. sanctions against the Islamic republic.
President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree that prohibits "the transit across Russia, including by air, the removal from Russia to Iran, and the transfer to Iran outside Russia of any combat tanks, armored personnel carriers, large-caliber artillery systems, warplanes, attack helicopters, military vessels, missiles or missile systems as defined by the United Nations Register of Conventional Arms, S-300 surface-to-air missile systems, or materiel and spare parts used for all of the above."
The decree was published on the Kremlin website.
This comes after Russian media reports that Moscow has decided not to sell S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran because they are subject to U.N. Security Council sanctions,
"A decision has been made not to supply S-300s to Iran as they are definitely subject to the sanctions," Armed Forces Chief of Staff Gen. Nikolai Makarov said, according to the state-run RIA-Novosti news agency. "There has been an instruction from the country's leadership to stop the deliveries, and we are obeying it."
Makarov didn't give a definite response on whether the contract between Iran and Russia on those deliveries will be terminated. However, he said, "we'll see. Everything depends on Iran's behavior," according to RIA-Novosti.
Russia froze the contract with Iran on the S-300 missiles this year after the latest U.N. Security Council resolution imposing sanctions on Iran.
Russia, China back Iran sanctions
by Anna Arutunyan, Evgeniya Chaykovskaya at 10/06/2010 19:37
Russia and China have backed a new set of sanctions on Iran in the United Nations Security Council over the countryâs refusal to negotiate about its suspected nuclear weapons programme.
The sanctions are the toughest yet, despite a move by Russia and China to soften them â freezing the assets of 40 additional companies and organisations linked to the country, and subjecting 40 Iranian officials to an asset freeze and travel ban.
Russiaâs and Chinaâs votes at the UN Security Council have now hampered their relations with Iran.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad conspicuously spurned Thursdayâs summit in Tashkent of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), of which Iran is an observer â a move linked to member states China and Russia backing the UN sanctions.
Russia moved to freeze a contract to deliver S-300 air defence missiles to Iran, an unidentified arms industry source told Interfax, in apparent compliance with the new sanctions.
Under Bush
October 13, 2006
China and Russia Stall Sanctions on North Korea
By WARREN HOGE
UNITED NATIONS, Oct. 12 â The American push to win Security Council backing for tough, swift sanctions against North Korea appeared to be set back by China and Russia on Thursday, in an echo of the obstacles the United States faces in a similar push to punish Iran.
The United States circulated a softened draft resolution to the Security Council in response to North Koreaâs assertion that it conducted a nuclear test on Monday. The United States pressed for a vote by Friday, but China and Russia immediately signaled their opposition to critical parts of the measure and said they needed more time. On Thursday night, a new draft resolution was circulated, and Reuters quoted the Chinese and Russian ambassadors calling the revisions improvements.
China had sent an emissary to the White House, Tang Jiaxuan, who met with President Bush during the day and appeared to be walking a line between punishing North Korea and preventing the United States from taking measures that would seriously threaten the government, according to the deputy national security adviser, J. D. Crouch.
After the first new draft was circulated Thursday, a senior Bush administration official said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was considering a trip to Beijing, Seoul and Tokyo as early as next week to negotiate punitive steps over and above those that might be acceptable to the Security Council.
That draft dropped earlier Japanese amendments prohibiting North Korean ships from entering any port and North Korean aircraft from taking off or landing in any country. Japan is imposing its own new sanctions, including a ban on North Korean ships in Japanese waters.
The draft still cited Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, which makes sanctions mandatory and suggests the possibility of military enforcement. China and Russia have consistently opposed Chapter VII enforcement for North Korea in the past.
The version circulated Thursday night retains stringent economic and weapons sanctions, but makes clear that the measures do not include military force, Reuters and The Associated Press reported.
The United States was able to win a unanimous Security Council resolution condemning North Koreaâs missile launchings last July only by dropping the reference to Chapter VII, but John R. Bolton, the American ambassador, said he would resist that step this time.
âIn light of the fact that North Korea has claimed a test of a nuclear device, we need stronger language,â he said.
The latest draft drops the idea of a weapons embargo and keeps a provision to allow nations to inspect cargo to and from North Korea. The provision has aroused particular objections from China, which is wary of such interdiction moves being conducted off its coasts. American officials, while acknowledging how difficult it will be to win Security Council backing for the tough sanctions they prefer, insist that even a weaker resolution would send a strong signal of international condemnation.
No.My point is Bush wasn't this feared and respected President that his supporters make him out to be.
Strong nations didn't gave a crap about Bush .They knew he would pick on weak countries like Iraq and Afghanistan,but the real threats like Korea with their million man army that would have fought to the death he only wanted to ignore them like they didn't exist