Baron - Is Nazism a fun joke for you and ET?

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

So, occasional anti-Semitic comments is permitted?

Anti-semitic comments are a regular event on this site, they are made every single day, in fact many times a day. You've made your share of anti-semitic comments, so have Wael and many, many others. While that was noted, no one ever complained and asked to have you or others banned. What publisher was doing was completely different.

Personally I would apply stricter standards than Baron, but this is his site and this is his judgment.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

"You've made your share of anti-semitic comments."

I have not made anti-Semitic comments, that is your delusion.

Taking issue with some actions of some Jews, taking issue with Israel's foreign and/or domesitic policy is not anti-Semitic...

"No one ever complained and asked to have you or others banned."

You have factual data to support that claim, that no one ever complained or ask to have you or others banned?

More uneducated guessing from triple DO...

Quote from dddooo:

Anti-semitic comments are a regular event on this site, they are made every single day, in fact many times a day. You've made your share of anti-semitic comments, so have Wael and many, many others. While that was noted, no one ever complained and asked to have you or others banned. What publisher was doing was completely different.

Personally I would apply stricter standards than Baron, but this is his site and this is his judgment.

 

[William Rennick]

Quote from Sirtatocar:



General George S. Patton was right when he realized the following. Although he was nothing but a coward,

THIS IS THE MOST ASSANINE COMMENT IN THE HISTORY OF ET. BARON, PLEASE BAN THIS YELLOW BELLY SON OF A BITCH.

William Rennick USN ret.

 

[William Rennick]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

I am real curious to know if there were only 3 million people exterminated by the Germans, if that would make them a better people, than say exterminating 6 million? What about 2 million? What about only million? Does that make them nicer? If they killed less than Stalin, does that make them not as "evil?"

I do suspect that the Jews have exaggerated to a greater or lesser extent, and I do think they have applied whatever number or whatever happened to manipulate the psychology of Americans in their favor.

Have we seen the American Indians get the same type of leverage here that the Jews get out of the Holocaust?

Nope.

Why is that? Is it because Americans did the dirty deed, and don't really want to look at their own soiled past? Is it because we like to demonize others, i.e. the Nazis (or now the Muslims--or the only good Indian is a dead Indian, etc.)

Really, at this point, it doesn't matter. Even if the extermination of Jews didn't happen, so what?

Would that make pro Israel policy wrong?

The majority of people are just stupid, irrational, and do not think logically or in real time. People who understand this, who are in power manipulate the sheeple to play upon fear, guilt, etc. for the sake of control. They buy whatever is being sold to them, just like they bought into Saddam and WMD.

No doubt some people hate Jews. No doubt some Jews hate Muslims. No doubt some Muslims hate Americans.

The operative word is hate...

What I observe is the typical action reaction. Those who don't believe in the Holocaust as described, put up their argument. The Holocaust defenders are reactive, which keeps the cycle of hatred alive.

My guess? The Nazis were an extremely nationalistic group, based on what Hitler wrote and what has been recorded. The Nazis utilized a convenient scape goat as a method to get the German people to rally together against a common enemy, the same way Americans and nearly every other culture has done in the past.

Do I know how many were Jews were killed?

Nope. Does it matter what I believe? Nope. Does it matter what politicians and leaders do today...here in America, in Israel, in Saudi Arabia, in Iran?

Yep, you bet.

What I observe, which is common here at ET, is fanatical hate on one side, and fanatical hate on the other side...rationalized of course by both sides.

Fanaticism is the real enemy, and the enemy is alive and well...

WOW!! This was the best Z10 post ever and one the best I've read on ET. Good job Z, your Stock just went up on my screen.

Rennick out

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

I have not made anti-Semitic comments, that is your delusion.
It's irrelevant whether you find a comment anti-semitic. If your comment insults the jews then it is. And you've made a number of comments straight from the Protocols. Here is an example from this very thread:

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz: 04-05-07 12:57 AM

Maybe Jews do control this country, maybe they are responsible for the war in Iraq, communism, Russia, Nazism in Germany.

You have factual data to support that claim, that no one ever complained or ask to have you or others banned?
I doubt anyone has ever asked to have you banned on the grounds of anti-semitism. The fact is you're still here, Publisher is not.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Quote from dddooo:

I have not made anti-Semitic comments, that is your delusion.
It's irrelevant whether you find a comment anti-semitic. If your comment insults the jews then it is. And you've made a number of comments straight from the Protocols. Here is an example from this very thread:

Maybe Jews do control this country, maybe they are responsible for the war in Iraq, communism, Russia, Nazism in Germany.

Maybe they do, I don't know. Do you even understand the what the word "maybe" means?

Entertaining a logical possibility intellectually is not antisemitism.

More fundamentalist black and white fanaticism from triple DO...

Your claims of antisemitism are of course complete BS. You don't speak for all Jews, and you are not the arbiter of what is or is not anti-Semitic.

If I were to say I like most spiritually oriented non secular Jews who actually want peace but find fanatical Zionist neocon militant reactive knee-jerk thinking Jews that post here at ET completely useless, even that is not anti-Semitic.

Speaking out against Israel's actions is not not speaking out against all Jews. There are fundamentalist Jews worldwide who speak out against the actions of the Zionists.



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jews+against+israel&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=jews+against+zionism&btnG=Search

Just more of your "if you are not with us you are against us" crap. Get a grip.


You have factual data to support that claim, that no one ever complained or ask to have you or others banned?
I doubt anyone has ever asked to have you banned on the grounds of anti-semitism. The fact is you're still here, Publisher is not.

Another non answer fallacious response. You have no facts to support your claims, just more talking out your tailbone...

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

You don't speak for all Jews, and you are not the arbiter of what is anti-Semitic.

Of course I don't, it's a matter of personal judgment, it's all subjective. So let your quotes from this thread speak for themselves:

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Maybe Jews do control this country, maybe they are responsible for the war in Iraq, communism, Russia, Nazism in Germany.

and:

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
I do suspect that the Jews have exaggerated to a greater or lesser extent, and I do think they have applied whatever number or whatever happened to manipulate the psychology of Americans in their favor.

Nice Z10, way to go! Jews are responsible for communism, Iraq and Nazism, Jews "manipulate the psychology of Americans". Oh but this is not anti-semitism, of course not. It's merely academic intellectual curiosity and your best friend is jewish.

Speaking out against Israel's actions is not not speaking out against all Jews.
Speaking out against Israel's actions while never speaking out against far worse actions of other countries including Israel's enemies is usually a sign of antisemitism.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Quote from dddooo:

Of course I don't, it's a matter of personal judgment

Yes, your own opinion, not a fact.



Nice Z10, way to go! Jews are responsible for communism, Iraq and Nazism, Jews "manipulate the psychology of Americans."

Do you fail to understand the word maybe?

Sure seems like it.

You are denying that many Jews do employ guilt over the Holocaust as a means to manipulate people to get what they want through the practice of guilting people?

Many people in this country are so brainwashed to a particular Pavlovian response that they don't even want to evaluate a situation factually, a sure sign of brainwashing...

Oh but this is not anti-semitism, of course not. It's merely academic intellectual curiosity and your best friend is jewish.

Maybe my best friend is Jewish, you don't know. Maybe I am Jewish, or part Jewish, you don't know. Try sticking to facts for a change.

Yes, it is merely intellectual curiosity, try it sometime.

It helps when trying to find the truth of a situation, but of course you have to put your fanaticism to sleep first.

Speaking out against Israel's actions is not not speaking out against all Jews.

Speaking out against Israel's actions while never speaking out against far worse actions of other countries including Israel's enemies is usually a sign of antisemitism.

Complete logical fallacy. You of course ignored the fact (the links I posted) that clearly demonstrate there are Jews who are very against Israel's actions and opposed to Zionism.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Do you fail to understand the word maybe?...Yes, it is merely intellectual curiosity, try it sometime.
So if someone were to say "maybe blacks are subhumans..." because of the word "maybe" the person is suddenly not a racist but an intellectual and a researcher trying to solve a serious scientific problem? Give me a break Z10, you can't hide behind the word "maybe", it does not conceal your antisemitic views, it instead shows your intellectual dishonesty and cowardice.


You are denying that many Jews do employ guilt over the Holocaust as a means to manipulate people to get what they want through the practice of guilting people?
Here you go again.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Quote from dddooo:

Do you fail to understand the word maybe?...Yes, it is merely intellectual curiosity, try it sometime.

So if someone were to say "maybe blacks are subhumans..." because of the word "maybe" the person is suddenly not a racist but an intellectual and a researcher trying to solve a serious scientific problem? Give me a break Z10, you can't hide behind the word "maybe", it does not conceal your antisemitic views, it instead shows your intellectual dishonesty and cowardice.

Name calling, best you can do?

Strawman argument comparing the willful actions of Israel and or some of the Jews there to a scientific condition of being something less than human.

Again, Fox News is waiting for you....

You are denying that many Jews do employ guilt over the Holocaust as a means to manipulate people to get what they want through the practice of guilting people?

Here you go again.

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