Baron - Is Nazism a fun joke for you and ET?

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Funny thing is, I actually know which semi-obscure 80's movie you got that line from! :D
I wonder if anyone here can name it...

Revenge of the Nerds! :)

haha
 
dddooo
with your obvious intelligence and common sense it is hard to believe you still think of yourself as a democrat. Time to join the conservatives?
 
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:confused: :confused:

The gas chambers of Birkenau [Auschwitz extermination camp] were blown up by the SS in November 1944 in an attempt to hide their crimes from the advancing Soviet troops. On January 17, 1945 Nazi personnel started to evacuate the facility; most of the prisoners were forced on a death march West. Those too weak or sick to walk were left behind; about 7,500 prisoners were liberated by the 322nd Infantry unit of the Red Army on January 27 1945.

Well, you admit that they were send on a march hundreds of miles to the west. If the Nazis wanted to kill the Jews, why didn't they just kill them at Auschwitz?

Visitors at Auschwitz were told for many years that the gas chamber that they were shown was genuine. David Cole secretly recorded a private discussion he had with the curator of Auschwitz, who admitted that the gas chamber was a reconstruction. Despite the visitors being told the opposite.

...
Nazi Rudolf Hoess said that between 2.5 and 3 million had been killed, while Adolf Eichmann gave a figure of 2 million
...
Eichmann´s extradition violated the basic rights of the State of Argentina.
No matter what happened, it is an infringement on their sovereignty, and it is a violation of the charter of the United Nations. Israel methods of torture on Arab detainees are well known, so we should take Eichmann's confessions with a grain of salt.

An explanation for Hoess's wild testimony is the evidence that Hoess was tortured by his captors. Hoess wrote of such torture:
"During the first interrogation they beat me to obtain evidence. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear. The whip was my own. By chance it had found its way into my wife's luggage. My horse had hardly ever been touched by it, much less the prisoners. Somehow one of the interrogators probably thought that I had used it to constantly whip the prisoners."(11)

An account by Rupert Butler on the capture and interrogation of Rudolf Hoess, includes the following episode:
"The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke he blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: 'Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.'"(12)

11.R. Hoess, p. 179.
12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237. Also:
R. Faurisson, "How the British Obtained the Confessions of Rudolf Hoess." The Journal of Historical Review (JHR) 7(4) (1986) pp.389-403.

and:

The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in 'The Wrexham Leader', October 17, 1986.
Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
"They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation."

"We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance," said Mr. Jones.

When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.
I suppose Hoess was fortunate in one respect, many Germans lost the use of their testicles after their walk in the park.

3 reasons why the Hoess testimony should be dismissed:

1. The first reason is that the "causties" themselves say that the Hoess confession is a result of torture (see J. C. Pressac 1994, Die Krematorien von Auschwitz, Appendix and F. Meyer 2002, Die Totenzahlen von Auschwitz, Osteuropa 5 (May 2002).

2. The second reason is that Hoess himself said that his confession at Nuremberg was caused by torture.

3. His "Erinnerungen" from Poland contain so many impossibilities and obvious lies that you have to be stupid or ignorant to believe in them. Even Martin Broszat only published part of it because it was too much (for example: 4 M jews from Romania)
 
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Have we seen the American Indians get the same type of leverage here that the Jews get out of the Holocaust?

Nope.

Why is that? Is it because Americans did the dirty deed, and don't really want to look at their own soiled past? Is it because we like to demonize others, i.e. the Nazis (or now the Muslims--or the only good Indian is a dead Indian, etc.)


American Indians are doing just fine on their reservations with
casinos pulling down millions of dollars. I don't remember the US building
gas chambers to kill them. Or anything like the Nazi's did to the Jews.

And there wasn't near the amount of Native Indians in America
compared to how many Jews disappeared in Europe. Maybe a
few thousand or so according to the history revisionists...

Your argument comparing the American Indians to the Jews is moot...:p
 
Quote from version77:

American Indians are doing just fine on their reservations with
casinos pulling down millions of dollars. I don't remember the US building
gas chambers to kill them. Or anything like the Nazi's did to the Jews.

And there wasn't near the amount of Native Indians in America
compared to how many Jews disappeared in Europe. Maybe a
few thousand or so according to the history revisionists...

Your argument comparing the American Indians to the Jews is moot...:p

American Indians are basically gone, except for a few thousand in reservations. Comparing their fate to the generously-cut Hollywood fancy is an insult towards the former.

General George S. Patton was right when he realized the following. Although he was nothing but a coward, he was the most reasonable American general in the war.

"The Nazi thing [WW2] is just like a Democrat-Republican fight." - General George S. Patton
 
Quote from Sirtatocar:

American Indians are basically gone, except for a few thousand in reservations. Comparing their fate to the generously-cut Hollywood fancy is an insult towards the former.

General George S. Patton was right when he realized the following, though he was nothing but a coward.

"The Nazi thing [WW2] is just like a Democrat-Republican fight." - George Patton

Obviously you have never been to America or else you would
know differently about how many Indians there are here on
reservations.

Patton kicked ass. Too bad huh?...:D
 
Quote from roberk:

dddooo
with your obvious intelligence and common sense it is hard to believe you still think of yourself as a democrat. Time to join the conservatives?
Hey, thanks man, appreciate it. As a matter of fact I never considered myself to be a democrat. I am indeed progressive on economic policies, I am against free trade and pro-Universal Healthcare, I am against the war in Iraq, I do hate this incompetent administration and previous corrupt republican do-nothing congress. But I am also strongly against illegal immigration and much closer to traditional republican views on defense and foreign policy. I am pro-choice but I am also pro-guns. So basically I consider myself an independent and vote based on candidates and what I see as the most important issue during each election cycle.

I would vote for Lou Dobbs in a heartbeat and he is a conservative, I would probably vote for Pat Buchanan (minus antisemitism). I can easily see myself voting for Giuliani and Hillary, Mitt Romney and John Edwards. For different reasons I will not vote for McCain or Obama.
 
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Sirtatocar, so smart. Yet all that reasoning used for hate.
How true.
Quote from Sirtatocar:
If the Nazis wanted to kill the Jews, why didn't they just kill them at Auschwitz?
I don't know. Why did they try to mate women with dogs? Why did they take two children, healthy siblings, and disembowel one of them alive while forcing the other to watch? Why did they do experiments to see how large an object could be inserted into the vagina of a Jewess before she bled to death? Are you suggesting that there was any 'reason' behind any of that?

"Method? I don't see any method at all... sir"
 
Why not create a filter that will delete all threads containing certain words like "Jews", "Muslims", "Christians", "Nazis", etc?

This website isnt really for the discussion of any of that. Let a filter take care of this problem.
 
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