Baron - Is Nazism a fun joke for you and ET?

Quote from arealpissedgoy:

Well it's you and only 3 other members out of 70,000 members who seem to have a problem with the posts in question. ...

... The rest of us know the Holohoax was just that. It's too bad Baron decided to travel the same path as our politicians who cower and cajole the squeakiest wheel
of our society. ...

... The truth is coming out slowly ...
"3 of 70.000", "the rest of us", yeah sure, comrade.
go and work on the fabricate you call "truth". so, let
me get this, the fact that this Publisher guy was
banned is another proof of zionist conspiray against
you folks. in fact it is the conspiracy of 3 plus baron
against the other 69997. sure. why does this line of
argument remind me so much of revisionism as a
whole?
 
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

LOL, yeah, that's it...those pics all look like bodies of people who were killed in a BOMBING, that's exactly what they look like...it's just funny because the people who took many of these pics are still alive and they SWEAR that they were from concentration camps... just more tricky jews im sure!!

Maybe they were. Is it such a stretch to believe that those prisoners starved to death during the final days of the war. Remember, those were work camps full of a variety of peoples including , slavs, gypsys, jews, turks, poles and anyone else the Krauts didn't trust. It doesn't make sense that they would kill off all their workers by gassing them the minute they were captured. The pictures were taken by the American libarators. Those starved bodies were the result of a choked off and defeated country at the end of a horrible war.

Rennick Rosenthal out

ps.We did the same thing to our Japs by capturing them. Our food supply was never threatened so those Nips actually gained weight. And lets not forget what we did to the proud American Indian. While we're remembering, how bout the citizens of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Dresden. All were either vaporized or burnt to a crisp. War is the reason for all of this. Only someone who has a firsthand taste of it can fully understand.:(
 
Quote from man:

"Archive/File: camps/auschwitz/staff muench-testimony
Last-Modified: 1994/07/14

Testimony of Dr. Hans W. Muench
[Trials of War Criminals, Vol. VIII. p. 313-321]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Q. What was your first impression of Auschwitz when you arrived?

A. I had already heard about extermination camps, and particularly
extermination camps for Jews, through reports over the Swiss radio
that I listened to regularly in the preceding years, but since I
considered this news to be propaganda, I did not believe it at the
time, because the facts that were being described seemed too
terribly outrageous to me. When I arrived in Auschwitz, and had to
convince myself personally that these reports were not exaggerated,
I was very much shaken emotionally."

now you refute it and then we start another round?
please let us stop this here, will you?

Alright, we are back to the point of debate. That, atleast, is better than the name calling, jumping of conclusions, you was engaged in when I simply dared to ask 2 questions. The Communists, who were well known for committing torture, first tried Muench. For some reason, Muench testified that he saw people being gassed. Later, in the trial which you quoted, he was expected to repeat the claims the Communists coerced him into making. He would have gotten the death sencence if he wasn't forthcoming enough. For the rest of his life, he became loved by Jews and he happily took advantage of all the travels and money that were given to him.

Dr. Münch (also known as "Moench" or "Mönch") was not a regular physician employed at Auschwitz, as he claims, but apparently a hygienist. His is not a name that appears frequently in the traditional Holocaust literature; he is, however, highly sought after by tabloid type media.

In other words, he is a "media-witness" who willingly bolsters the traditional version of a Hollywood-type "Holocaust." He likes the accolades accorded him, since he is willing to toe the politically correct line. He repeats tabloid-type stories.

He very willingly talks about "gassings" and "cremations" and is the kind that has actually "seen" flames shoot out of crematoria and has "smelled" the stench of burnt human bodies - stories that do not check out with what is known of cremations. (No flames. No smoke. No stench). Even a cursory knowledge of physics makes clear to a discerning reader that this is a man with a vivid but sieve-like imagination whose stories don't square with science.

His "testimony" is full of contradictions and mistakes of the most elementary kind that are easy to check out.

Summary:

What Muensch's declarations show once more is the total absence of value of testimonial court evidence without cross-examination or forensic investigation.

- Muench is also interesting because after his acquittal he testified at the IG Farben Trial (the one you quoted), one of the US run Nuremberg Trials after the IMT. On that occasion, he insisted that he heard about the gassings at Auschwitz first over the Swiss radio!!
“The effects of the gas were observed through a peephole by an assigned doctor or the SS officer on duty. After three to five minutes, death could be certified, and the doors were opened as a sign that the corpses were cleared to be burned.”

Muench said he worked with Dr. Mengele, "a charming man", and that he just "refused" to do what he had been told to do.
- No chance, the SS in wartime would not have tolerated “refusal”.

Muench stated he saw thousands of people being "gassed" in Auschwitz. He says: "anyone who did not fit Hitler's idea of a pure Aryan race".
- This statement is totally absurd. Tens of millions of people who "did not fit Hitler's idea of a pure Aryan race" did survive the Nazi period, including hundreds of thousands in the camps.

A real beauty, Muench said:
"After three to five minutes, death could be certified, and the doors were opened as a sign that the corpses were cleared to be burned".
- Utterly impossible, contradicts the laws of physics and chemistry and is a pure invention. This man is just quoting worn out literary precedents.

Muench declared:
"I had to watch the operation of the gas chambers and then, when the bodies were dead, I had to sign the death certificates."
- Problem, the official story says there were no death documents for those allegedly "gassed".

Remember, this is a guy who claims to have taken part in 'gassings', but was curiously acquitted.

Muench is not an uninterested party with no stakes in the matter. He underwent trial in 1946-47 in Communist Krakow, Poland and whatever he said about his direct experience with the "Auschwitz gas chamber" back then compromises him today. Therefore his reason for re-stating an outdated version of the gas chambers story would simply be an attempt at coherent behaviour on his part, the desire not to be seen as a liar.
 
sorry willie, i'd say that you are too intelligent to claim
that you are not very intentionally leaning towards the
"holocaust is a myth". why don't you state it loud and
clear like the other honourable fellows, eg the realpisser
(sorry got that name confused i guess) do?
 
Quote from man:

why does this line of
argument remind me so much of revisionism as a
whole?

BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIT AND NEED TO BE REVISED. If the guy who came up with those numbers were a public CEO he'd be in jail.

:mad:
 
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

hmmm, the holocaust never happened? yeah, i think it's those tricky jews again...

http://jude.bloomradio.com/noiseblog/holocaust.jpg

we gotcha! us crazy mischevious jews... you gotta watch us i tell ya...

yep, as any of the fine gents here will confirm it was just our trick photography vis a vis our ''control of the media'' which was way ahead of the rest of the world which allowed us to propagate this big trick as you can see here: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/holocaust00.jpg

arent these guys good actors??

http://partisantimes.typepad.com/partisan_times/images/holocaust_victims_1.jpg

and we thought, ya know what? we should even get the kids in on it, as you can see here: http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/holocaust-victims.jpg

it was really a good time, we had a very elaborate and realistic set that we used to produce the whole thing, part of which you can see here:

http://www.israelnewsagency.com/holocaust_gas.gif

i remember this shot... we all thought we'd suck in really hard to make ourselves look malnourished- TRICKED YA AGAIN!

http://moot.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/holocaust.jpg

we really had loads of fun...

http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/EG1.jpg

haha jokes on you!! you really have to watch us tricky jews...you never know what we have up our sleeve!!

Care to prove that those people died from gassing? 300,000+ Jews died from lack of food, and the bodies were trown on heaps and later cremated. These pictures show nothing more than that. It sure was sad, but can not be considered evidence of the Holocaust. Every politically correct Holocaust book claims that the Nazis were carefull to destroy their records and blow up the supposed gas chambers, yet people like you claim the opposite when it suits their argument.
 
Quote from Sirtatocar:

Alright, we are back to the point of debate. ...
please this is no debate it is just a public display of
arguments. you dismiss everything he said, discredit
him and so forth. as is done with all others. your friend
the good old publisher said the words of eichmann kept
on film are no proof because the jewish court forced
him to say what he said. it is already transparent,
whatever comes up will be dismissed because it does
not fit into your sympathy for hitler and the nazis. and
that is about it. you honourable minority tribe of galileis
against the big conspiracy of zionists out there. you
69997 against the 3 of us (+baron).

as clear as can be. and the world will know because you
won't rest. sure.
 
Quote from William Rennick:

BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIT AND NEED TO BE REVISED. If the guy who came up with those numbers were a public CEO he'd be in jail.

:mad:

Six million, two million. Does it matter how many people the Nazi's
killed in inhumane ways?

The fact is, they were acting like sick, perverted barbarians. Period.

Thank goodness they didn't win the war. Or billions would be
wiped off the map by now. The whole world would be a slave camp...
 
Quote from Sirtatocar:

Care to prove that those people died from gassing? 300,000+ people died from lack of food, and the bodies were trown on heaps and later cremated. These pictures show nothing more than that.

Why would they need to gas those starving souls, not to mention where in the hell would they get gas to do it.
 
You are wrong about Baron, he has stated that he is apolitical, his move was not based on taking sides on the issue but responding to the volume and noise of the complaints.


Quote from man:

please this is no debate it is just a public display of
arguments. you dismiss everything he said, discredit
him and so forth. as is done with all others. your friend
the good old publisher said the words of eichmann kept
on film are no proof because the jewish court forced
him to say what he said. it is already transparent,
whatever comes up will be dismissed because it does
not fit into your sympathy for hitler and the nazis. and
that is about it. you honourable minority tribe of galileis
against the big conspiracy of zionists out there. you
69997 against the 3 of us (+baron).

as clear as can be. and the world will know because you
won't rest. sure.
 
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