Banks in Calif., Ill., Fla., Texas are shut down-

Take away the change in accounting from Mark-to-Market to Mark-to-Whatever-You-Please and these banks are all insolvent. When you mess up the asset side of the banking equation the entire system implodes. It's nice and convenient for the banks to mark these assets to a price that makes the balance sheet look healthy and allows them to generate record profits. The only reason banks, like BAC, are not foreclosing on houses, and thereby allowing people to live in the house practically for free, is because doing so means they would have to realize the loss if they can't move the property in a short period of time at the price of something close to what they can Mark-to-Whatever-You-Please at.

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And you conveniently ignore:

- The trillion plus dollar Fed purchases of crappy loans

- The FDIC backing of these large banks that speculate

- The AIG bailout pass-thru of billions

- Special tax breaks

- An engineered stock market rally that allowed these big banks to issue new shares

- the backstopped and cheaply funded "merger" like BAC and MER and JPM and Bear

- FASB changes that allows banks to model their balance sheets according to a fantasy world.

Gee... I wonder if any or all of the above contributed to the paying off of the loans you mentioned and subsequent high bonuses. How convenient.
 
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So why not lend the same money to these small community banks at 0% interest until they're able to get back on their own two feet? C'mon, let's level the playing field for once.

Go back and check history of JP morgan during times like these--its ripe time for them to gobble these banks--there was an article on yahoo in 2008 about JPM wish i'd saved it that was promptly taken off about how JPM gobbled banks in 1908 and again in 1929 and now--on Washinton Mutual they made about 58$ billion before washington mutual decided to fight back.
 
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And you conveniently ignore:

- The trillion plus dollar Fed purchases of crappy loans

- The FDIC backing of these large banks that speculate

- The AIG bailout pass-thru of billions

- Special tax breaks

- An engineered stock market rally that allowed these big banks to issue new shares

- the backstopped and cheaply funded "merger" like BAC and MER and JPM and Bear

- FASB changes that allows banks to model their balance sheets according to a fantasy world.

Gee... I wonder if any or all of the above contributed to the paying off of the loans you mentioned and subsequent high bonuses. How convenient.

You know, I'll give it to you. I did ignore all of these underlying aspects. I guess I'd just like to believe that the biggest scam of the century that I can do nothing about, but which will effect me for years to come, isn't as bad as it's being made out to be.
 
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Go back and check history of JP morgan during times like these--its ripe time for them to gobble these banks--there was an article on yahoo in 2008 about JPM wish i'd saved it that was promptly taken off about how JPM gobbled banks in 1908 and again in 1929 and now--on Washinton Mutual they made about 58$ billion before washington mutual decided to fight back.
The question wasn't about investing opportunities but why the hell is the government aiding and abetting these banks at the expense of taxpayers. Why not invest in the community banks that will help grow communities and ultimately taxpayers?
 
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The question wasn't about investing opportunities but why the hell is the government aiding and abetting these banks at the expense of taxpayers. Why not invest in the community banks that will help grow communities and ultimately taxpayers?
Look at the largest Campaign contributors. Not many Community Banks on that list.
 
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Look at the largest Campaign contributors. Not many Community Banks on that list.
Yes, yes, I know all that and more. But the scope of current problem is way too large to concern ourselves with helping out only one or two large contributors. Seriously, our future depends on this and yet the idiots in the government are playing hooky with the American taxpayers. There should be no distinction between "too big to fail" and "too small to survive". Every institution should be given equal treatment.
 
dO you really think with full majority the democrats wouldn't havebeen able to fix it all- I am democrat but seeing Harry Reid and Nancy fancy makes me puke and when you got leaders like that running the show don't expect things to change- change is all we have got left--- after the democrats are done spending- democrats or republicans it doesn't matter they are all leeches sucking the common mans blood
 
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