Bad signs for Obama, people around him don't think he has cojones...

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Hillary Clinton went on PBS and expressed her desire for more troops in afganistan a few weeks ago

McChrystal's report got leaked

McChrystal made a speech recently outside the US about "his strategy" (adding more troops) according to NBC nightly news (10/04

Obama got punked by the IOC

It does not look good. if I were Obama I would think people think I am a weakling.

Well you do know that regardless what they say in public, the Clintons despise Obama and are still reeling from what happened in the dem primary. When the time is right, Hillary is going stab Obama right in the back.
 
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Well you do know that regardless what they say in public, the Clintons despise Obama and are still reeling from what happened in the dem primary. When the time is right, Hillary is going stab Obama right in the back.

This implies that you are privy to their private conversations.
 
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Well you do know that regardless what they say in public, the Clintons despise Obama and are still reeling from what happened in the dem primary. When the time is right, Hillary is going stab Obama right in the back.

Of course, she is quite capable of it, it makes you wonder why he appointed her knowing a "judas" would be among the cabinet members.

Imo, the Clintons are not true leftists, although Hillary has had some screwball ideas in the past.
 
The Politics of Spite
By PAUL KRUGMAN

There was what President Obama likes to call a teachable moment last week, when the International Olympic Committee rejected Chicago’s bid to be host of the 2016 Summer Games.

“Cheers erupted” at the headquarters of the conservative Weekly Standard, according to a blog post by a member of the magazine’s staff, with the headline “Obama loses! Obama loses!” Rush Limbaugh declared himself “gleeful.” “World Rejects Obama,” gloated the Drudge Report. And so on.

So what did we learn from this moment? For one thing, we learned that the modern conservative movement, which dominates the modern Republican Party, has the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old.

But more important, the episode illustrated an essential truth about the state of American politics: at this point, the guiding principle of one of our nation’s two great political parties is spite pure and simple. If Republicans think something might be good for the president, they’re against it — whether or not it’s good for America.

To be sure, while celebrating America’s rebuff by the Olympic Committee was puerile, it didn’t do any real harm. But the same principle of spite has determined Republican positions on more serious matters, with potentially serious consequences — in particular, in the debate over health care reform.

Now, it’s understandable that many Republicans oppose Democratic plans to extend insurance coverage — just as most Democrats opposed President Bush’s attempt to convert Social Security into a sort of giant 401(k). The two parties do, after all, have different philosophies about the appropriate role of government.

But the tactics of the two parties have been different. In 2005, when Democrats campaigned against Social Security privatization, their arguments were consistent with their underlying ideology: they argued that replacing guaranteed benefits with private accounts would expose retirees to too much risk.

The Republican campaign against health care reform, by contrast, has shown no such consistency. For the main G.O.P. line of attack is the claim — based mainly on lies about death panels and so on — that reform will undermine Medicare. And this line of attack is utterly at odds both with the party’s traditions and with what conservatives claim to believe.

Think about just how bizarre it is for Republicans to position themselves as the defenders of unrestricted Medicare spending. First of all, the modern G.O.P. considers itself the party of Ronald Reagan — and Reagan was a fierce opponent of Medicare’s creation, warning that it would destroy American freedom. (Honest.) In the 1990s, Newt Gingrich tried to force drastic cuts in Medicare financing. And in recent years, Republicans have repeatedly decried the growth in entitlement spending — growth that is largely driven by rising health care costs.

But the Obama administration’s plan to expand coverage relies in part on savings from Medicare. And since the G.O.P. opposes anything that might be good for Mr. Obama, it has become the passionate defender of ineffective medical procedures and overpayments to insurance companies.

How did one of our great political parties become so ruthless, so willing to embrace scorched-earth tactics even if so doing undermines the ability of any future administration to govern?

The key point is that ever since the Reagan years, the Republican Party has been dominated by radicals — ideologues and/or apparatchiks who, at a fundamental level, do not accept anyone else’s right to govern.

Anyone surprised by the venomous, over-the-top opposition to Mr. Obama must have forgotten the Clinton years. Remember when Rush Limbaugh suggested that Hillary Clinton was a party to murder? When Newt Gingrich shut down the federal government in an attempt to bully Bill Clinton into accepting those Medicare cuts? And let’s not even talk about the impeachment saga.

The only difference now is that the G.O.P. is in a weaker position, having lost control not just of Congress but, to a large extent, of the terms of debate. The public no longer buys conservative ideology the way it used to; the old attacks on Big Government and paeans to the magic of the marketplace have lost their resonance. Yet conservatives retain their belief that they, and only they, should govern.

The result has been a cynical, ends-justify-the-means approach. Hastening the day when the rightful governing party returns to power is all that matters, so the G.O.P. will seize any club at hand with which to beat the current administration.

It’s an ugly picture. But it’s the truth. And it’s a truth anyone trying to find solutions to America’s real problems has to understand.
 
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The Politics of Spite
By PAUL KRUGMAN

...And it’s a truth anyone trying to find solutions to America’s real problems has to understand.
One little problem with this pontification.
Obama IS one of America's real problems.
 
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But the tactics of the two parties have been different. In 2005, when Democrats campaigned against Social Security privatization, their arguments were consistent with their underlying ideology: they argued that replacing guaranteed benefits with private accounts would expose retirees to too much risk.




Wow, if the social security was made private in 2005, most likely a big loss for most of the older people now, true? It would be a buy and hold because most people are not traders.
 
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The cheapest option?

Hardly...

Imagine you had an imagination, swallow that koan...

Well then why aren't there solar panels on every single federal building? Why arent there solar panels on every single corporate building? Forget the solar panels. If this country isn't using the cheapest option then why aren't they?! Englighten the country Optional. You can do it! Save us!
 
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One little problem with this pontification.
Obama IS one of America's real problems.
Funny, when we said that about W, you accused us of treason.

Every president has legitimate opposition. But the article is dead-on: American conservatives now oppose every single thing Obama does without caring whether it actually benefits the country.

So tell us, what exactly would have been the harm if Chicago did get the 2016 Olympics?
 
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..So tell us, what exactly would have been the harm if Chicago did get the 2016 Olympics?
None that I know of, but then it wasn't my decision. I'm just basking in the glow of Nobama getting punked.
 
You don't know the answer, really?

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Well then why aren't there solar panels on every single federal building? Why arent there solar panels on every single corporate building? Forget the solar panels. If this country isn't using the cheapest option then why aren't they?! Englighten the country Optional. You can do it! Save us!
 
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