B Hussein Obama on a downward spiral

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

If Global markets believed they had TRUE support from the governments of various developed nations-not bailouts but lower corporate taxes, lower capital gains taxes and less pressure from environmentalists, those markets in turn would have stabilized at more traditional -40% off the highs fractal support.

If longs were inclined to believe Obama's policies were a bull item then they WOULDN'T BE SELLING.

You mention quite a few markets selling off with the U.S.-all true. But notice this-All of those countries are JUST LIKE AMERICA. Socialists in deed, bloated, indebted and overly managed. Contrarily China, Taiwan, India, Brazil, Argentina bourses in Jakarta and even troubled Mexico City are each well above their November lows. IMO the divergence is quite telling.

Pabst, you've got a lot of nerve highlighting China's stock market as a "free market" given the fact that the government is frequently purchasing shares in their market.

As for your overall thesis, you conveniently fail to acknowledge that Europe and the rest of the world "played" fast and loose with the same securities that we did.

They have it even worse ( on a percentage of GDP basis ) than us.

And yet you conveniently refrain from pointing that out . . . Why is that?
 
China is just one of MANY global markets that's above it's Nov lows.

If America is still breaking because of financial's then what's the NASDAQ 100's excuse? Not a bank in sight there. Look at the All Ordinaries. The housing situation in OZ is just as dire as here-even worse when priced in the $US- not to mention Westfield who is exposed in the States. Still holding their Nov lows-albeit they'll probably trade out but Aussie longs vs. U.S. shorts has been a winner on this leg.

So pretend I didn't mention China.

BTW I was going to cover below 700 but I'm shooting for 675. I'll hedge some long gamma today though.





Quote from Landis82:

Pabst, you've got a lot of nerve highlighting China's stock market as a "free market" given the fact that the government is frequently purchasing shares in their market.

As for your overall thesis, you conveniently fail to acknowledge that Europe and the rest of the world "played" fast and loose with the same securities that we did.

They have it even worse ( on a percentage of GDP basis ) than us.

And yet you conveniently refrain from pointing that out . . . Why is that?
 
I am not sure why you would think that the "systemic risk" out there should ALREADY be priced into the markets.

European Banks have $24 TRILLION of ongoing systemic risk!

That number is TWICE the size of the United States GDP.

P.S. April Crude is off a little more than 10% at 40.15 - - - Only $2.70 from the contract lows.
 
I'm quite short-as you're aware-so what are you telling me that I don't know? You sent me a PM with "support" at 739 and 715. I was adding to shorts at 740....


Quote from Landis82:

I am not sure why you would think that the "systemic risk" out there should ALREADY be priced into the markets.

European Banks have $24 TRILLION of ongoing systemic risk!

That number is TWICE the size of the United States GDP.

P.S. April Crude is off a little more than 10% at 40.15 - - - Only $2.70 from the contract lows.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I'm quite short-as you're aware-so what are you telling me that I don't know? You sent me a PM with "support" at 739 and 715. I was adding to shorts at 740....

Sorry Landis but any trader who is willing to call out major levels of price support where there are no prior levels of support before it are irresponsible technical analysts.

Stick to the news.
 
Not only have future expectations of profit been pulled in because we no longer have cheap money out there, not only are the markets concerned about toxic assets, not only is there a looming risk of depression, but the markets have less chance of being nicely profitable because the electorate is turning left.

Brilliant analysis.

Our potential is lower because money is not cheap an our governments are being run socialists.

How do I bet on stagflation? 2-3 years from now?





Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Cutten here's where lesser minds don't get it: It's not the Obama effect it's the electorate effect. In other words from 2006 on it's been quite obvious to me that VOTERS around the world were turning to the Left. Very similar to the 1960's-late 1970's. Labor strikes, civil demonstrations, protests against privatization etc. That frustrated from the streets movement MADE WAY for Obama and his ilk.

If Global markets believed they had TRUE support from the governments of various developed nations-not bailouts but lower corporate taxes, lower capital gains taxes and less pressure from environmentalists, those markets in turn would have stabilized at more traditional -40% off the highs fractal support.

Wow - I need to add this to my analysis.
If longs were inclined to believe Obama's policies were a bull item then they WOULDN'T BE SELLING. You mention quite a few markets selling off with the U.S.-all true. But notice this-All of those countries are JUST LIKE AMERICA. Socialists in deed, bloated, indebted and overly managed. Contrarily China, Taiwan, India, Brazil, Argentina bourses in Jakarta and even troubled Mexico City are each well above their November lows. IMO the divergence is quite telling.
 
S&P down 30% since The Obamassiah took office and shifted the move to socialism from 2nd to 5th gear.

A few days ago a major poll said 54% of Americans liked the bailout plan and thought it would help.

Geez.

Maybe another 30% will make people start to think just a little. But I doubt it.

Speaking of 5ths, I'm ready for a drink.
 
Quote from TGregg:

S&P down 30% since The Obamassiah took office and shifted the move to socialism from 2nd to 5th gear...
Yes, I'm sure it's all Obama and has nothing to do with the crumbling economy and the increasingly negative economic and corporate news that surface almost daily. No doubt, all macroeconomic and corporate information has already been discounted in full since before Obama took office, in accordance with Efficient Market Theory, and everything since then has been nothing but Obama fallout. Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I'm quite short-as you're aware-so what are you telling me that I don't know? You sent me a PM with "support" at 739 and 715. I was adding to shorts at 740....

Congratulations.
Looks like you've had the last 40 points all figured out. Do I still have time to enroll in your trading class? :D
 
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