Ayn Rand and trading...

nitro,

to me - morality stems from religious beliefs.
I find moralizing something that is not appealing intellectually,
and it tries to control freedom of thought as well as the social context, interactions.

Ethics is different, as it stems from personal integrity - and not "something larger" which is believed to exist.
Ethics is not a concept that tries to subjugate others, or exert control over them, limiting their freedom.

Morality is something subjective - and it's like handing control over to someone else for your freedom.
That type of totalitarian collectivism is repugnant to me...
 
Gringinho,

I understand what you mean, and I think I understand your objection. But I mean morality not from a religious sense, but from a philosophical perspective (which in turn tries to understand where morality comes from). Perhaps this site better explains what I mean:

http://www.iep.utm.edu/e/ethics.htm

Quote from Gringinho:

nitro,

to me - morality stems from religious beliefs.
I find moralizing something that is not appealing intellectually,
and it tries to control freedom of thought as well as the social context, interactions.

Ethics is different, as it stems from personal integrity - and not "something larger" which is believed to exist.
Ethics is not a concept that tries to subjugate others, or exert control over them, limiting their freedom.

Morality is something subjective - and it's like handing control over to someone else for your freedom.
That type of totalitarian collectivism is repugnant to me...
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Quote from yucca_mtn:

A small paperback book "For the New Intellectual" takes excerpts from her books to summarize the meat of her philosophy. A much less painful means of reading her work than wading through massive uninspired fictional stories. I personally try to follow the basic principles of her philosophy, but disagree frequently with her own applications (or interpretations) of her philosophy to real life situations.

Just 20 or 30 pages from Atlas Shrugged--
"This is John Galt Speaking" (This is the philosophy of Objectivism.) Tells all you need to know to capture her basic philosophy.

What would she think of traders? What do they produce? What do they create? Does what they do benefit or contribute to mankind? They live by virtue of their own mind and skill, not dependent on anyone. They are successful only if they are rational and objective. But they survive only if there are weaker traders to prey upon? Interesting.
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Good Point... I wondered the same when I read Atlas...

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I like his book, What did it do for me? It allowed me to see things alot differently. Has it improved my life? It has. I now think, with alot more business sense. What would I rate it? I'd give it a 8 out of 10. Do you know the true meaning of the book? Yeah i know about the illuminati and John Galt is really Philippe rothchild and daconia is really the the rockerfellers etc etc. and all this bull.
 
Quote from stefan_777:

Yes, if only basic laws (whatever that means) could solve or prevent complicated problems.

Who believes that?

A law that says build a safe house is too vague and relative to keep builders from getting creative or frugal, and build houses that will eventually collapse on the inhabitants. Theres more to life than basic rules.
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I think the building codes are the result of collusion between gov't agencies and the agencies that provide materials. It is extremely difficult to build a non standard house no matter how safe it is. Hell just look at how the simple requirements on window area vs floor area impact design and energy efficiency.
Or how about square footage of living area is determined by external measurement rather than actual living area.
There seems to be little accommodation for thinking outside the box.
All for the greater good of course.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

You don't even have to look at large crowds. Since you wrote that you favor simplicity, you can just look at the one guy who shot a man in the back while he was lying on his stomach.
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That "cop" was not alone. He was in a group. I don't know why or how he shot him but I do understand the action of the mob that retaliated by destroying property of people not involved in the incident.
As I stated before" the veneer of civilization is very thin." The correct provocation will remove it from most of us and do it most easily in a crowd situation.
The crowd usually gives a sense of anonymity.
 
Thunderdog said:
Anyone who thinks Rand's book(s) will help his trading should recognize that he is already grasping at straws. Indignation, righteous or otherwise, ain't gonna give you better setups or provide you with a better money management routine.
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Yes but a start in itself is seemingly futile. A start, followed by another step is not.
 
While we're resurrecting a literally decade old thread, I thought I'd share my favorite Atlas Shrugged quote:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
 
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