Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

Quote from avarus:

I always average in against a 1% stop loss and make 3%. This is how the props at major investment banks do it. Quickest way to double your bankroll if you have a precise way of doing it and the proper sized account to support the position sizing required. By far the best way to trade if you know how to do it.
hm.. makes sense, it sounds better than selling put method employed by VN.
 
<i>"Could you explain this in a bit more detail? Genuinely curious. Many thanks"</i>

Question not directed to me, but here's my take. I trade ES contracts in multiples of two. If for example I want to be short with market trading at 1574, the 1575 = 1577 levels may both be visible layers of resistance.

Perhaps the ideal entry is 1577, but price action may very well stall out at lowest layer of resistance 1575 and never rise into most ideal trigger.

One solution is shorting 1/2 position 1575 and second 1/2 at 1577 for blended entry 1576.

If price action fails below 1577 without second 1/2 filled, I can always add on at 1474 or lower as price then moves in my favor.

That is one way of averaging in, with a specific strategy in mind. Shorting into resistance or buying into support at two similar spots on a chart, when neither seems more ideal than the other.

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Making a habit of scaling into longs as markets drop will invariably hit a period like this afternoon. How many layers of "support" were obliterated in the -30pt ES drop? Instead of trying to time the counter-trend bounce (which didn't happen) inside bigger prevailing uptrend, the big money was all made shorting the short-term downtrend.

By the time any long trades were profitable this afternoon, ES was down -20pts off the high. Scaling into reversals as a habitual method is inevitable suicide. Believe it or not, there is risk when going long these days or any days, for that matter.
 
Quote from Cxinvest:

Yeah, averaging down in ES today would have proved just how well it makes you money :eek: :eek: :eek:

~Cx
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A 50% retracement of the monster move off of the August lows would take the SPX down to 1470. About 85 points left.

And a 50% retracement is not uncommon in a bull move.

Average down at one's own risk.
 
Quote from avarus:

The math must be sound. If it's not you will sleep with the fish.

Those who blow up doing it this way are the ones whose account does not support the position sizing required. Your account size must be able to support a 10% gap against your position and not blink an eye. Takes money to make money.

Yep, I also learned it at a prop firm.
Real money machine.
Newbies here just don't know how or lack the cajones.

ADK
 
Quote from Avgdownking:

Yep, I also learned it at a prop firm.
Real money machine.
Newbies here just don't know how or lack the cajones.

ADK


Nice. Somone who averages down with a prop firm referring to other traders as "newbies". This comment really made my day:p :p .

~Cx
 
I'm not saying it can't be done, but I listen to the man...

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Averaging down will work for you.
You need some deep pockets.
Inflation will make you whole.
Be patient.

P.S.: this only works if you go long
 
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