Quote from nonlinear5:
Well, the ES margin is about $2,800. You are looking to make 8.92% daily profit. That means is that you are planning to turn $2,800 into about 6 trillion in one year. That's about half the U.S. gross domestic product.
Land sakes alive. This site is in far worse shape than even I realized.
Based on that exponential math above, +1pt ES per day is roughly +1.79% daily. So that means someone averaging +1pt ES per day somehow projects to $1.2 trillion in one year?
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Now I realize the lingering mentality of ET is to "kill all vendors" and some of the (remaining) old guard must cling to that belief... because if they turn out to be wrong, what else are they also wrong about? What else have they been wrong about all along?
Scary thought for many here. Frightening, actually.
So even though some of the vocal minority hate this messenger, here's the plain truth. Take it or leave it. We're talking about your careers here, so it might be worth your while to listen.
Day traders in general and emini traders in particular are really good at trading. They are really good at clicking in orders. Lots of them. But ya know what they really suck at?
Keeping profits.
How many times have you read in literally 100s of threads here where traders have said something to the effect of, "I was up x today and should have stopped trading there. After chasing every last wiggle that waggled, I'm now at breakeven or down for the day"
The gunners and the over-trade addicts always glean most accolades. "Way to go, man! You were on fire today" or "You called every wrinkle and twist today. You're a freakin' rock star!"
But given a look inside those traders' accounts, you would probably see big (if not huge) sideways equity swings thru peaks and troughs. Nobody with zero exceptions in this profession trades every minute, all day every day without riding the sideways roller coaster towards (hopeful) success.
For every session like yesterday that goes directional into the close, two others chop sideways into consolidation. The rock star traders and their wannabe followers purposely forget that fact, because it does not support their desired rock star trading lifestyle aspirations.
Do you know something else that most short-term traders become adept at? Being marginally profitable intraday at some point(s) or other before ending flat or net-loss... more days than not.
Target shooting for acceptable profit goals intraday is nothing more than an acccount AND trader management approach to smooth out equity curve performance. Nowhere is it written that anyone must trade every wiggle all day (and night) or else they cannot win this game.
Get really good at being marginally profitable most days, keep those profits and then gradually add contract(share) size. That ain't the only way to win over time... but it damn sure is one of them.
I paid for site sponsor status for the right to speak freely and set some misconceptions straight. My time here in that capacity is brief, I'll turn my shovel and bucket back into the sandbox bullies here soon enough. Meanwhile, the ideas I have shared are things learned thru trial and error, the hard way.
By far the most pricey and expensive $$ lessons you'll ever pay for in your trading career will be the educational packages paid to Mr. Market itself. By far. What I'm sharing here is free. Take it or leave it, doesn't change the facts one iota either way.
Shoot for +5pts (or whatever you decide) ES per day. Keep the losses contained. Hit that goal 1/3 to 1/2 the time, and let remaining sessions wash each other out. Gradually add size. Trading and trader management approach for smoothed equity curve.
Simple as that