Attn: Atheist...read the last line of the first post...

Time and space son, time and space...

Quote from Mav88:

Another symptom, when they don't understand something they claim another pseudo-scientific concept supports them.

Time is one dimensional, sorry you lack the sophistication to know that.
 
Quote from jem:

It is only the asswipes who make statements which can not be proven.


Quote from jem:
He can create an evolutionary process that allows species to change and adapt.
facts are facts.
 
Quote from Barth Vader:

Actually, stu, you are in line with orthodox theological thinking on this matter! [I am proud of you :) ]
You are proud , I am humbled :)


I got it , my suspicions were correct. Officially you say, there is no such thing as God.

Quote from Barth Vader:

G-D is indeed "no thing" and "nothing", and if I may carry your position one step forward, is most definitely a "no-god" IF any portion of a "knowledge of G-D" is conceived of in the mind of man.
Right, ok, so IF any portion of a "knowledge of G-D" is conceived of in the mind of man, that is most definitely a "no-god".
Got that.

Quote from Barth Vader:

G-D can only be known as a consequence of a self revealing by G-D, such as in the person of Christ, or the prophets of Israel.
Hang on a minute. That is a "portion of a knowledge of G-D"
"knowledge of G-D" is a "no-god"

Now all of a sudden, "Knowledge of G-D" as conceived of in the mind of man in the person of Christ, or the prophets of Israel..... is not a "no-god" ?? .
According to you they would most definitely be a "no-god" . Isn't that what you said?

Come on Barth, to be taken seriously , you cannot have ISN'T meaning IS at the same time.

Conceive G_D in the mind of man as a self revealing God..... and it's a "no-god".
Consequence of a self revealing would still inevitably be a "knowledge of G-D" conceived of in the mind of man.
And that's a "no-god" !



I think it's fair to say the orthodox theological thinking on this matter seems more in line with me than I with them :p
 
Quote from stu:


this is what stu wrote

Quote from jem:

It is only the asswipes who make statements which can not be proven.




Quote from jem:
He can create an evolutionary process that allows species to change and adapt.
facts are facts.
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Now this is straight out of the elitetrader asswipe bag of tricks. I have no idea what Stu is like in real life.

But I do know nothing he writes here can be trusted.

Stu makes it looks like Palin's quote was mine. Even though I specifically said her quote carries with it the implicit statement that she believes in God therefore in her belief God could create or allow for evolution.
 
Quote from jem:

this is what stu wrote

Quote from jem:

It is only the asswipes who make statements which can not be proven.




Quote from jem:
He can create an evolutionary process that allows species to change and adapt.
facts are facts.
-------------

Now this is straight out of the elitetrader asswipe bag of tricks. I have no idea what Stu is like in real life.

But I do know nothing he writes here can be trusted.

Stu makes it looks like Palin's quote was mine. Even though I specifically said her quote carries with it the implicit statement that she believes in God therefore in her belief God could create or allow for evolution.

First I notice you have learned a new word. Someone should let you know using it all the time doesn't help your argument any. It just makes you look like the ignorant crude redneck you clearly are.

Second, neither you nor Palin made the statement which can be proven.

Palin made a statement , you repeated it and tried to perversely turn the need over to prove the statement wrong , onto those you call atheists. First off according to your own words, neither Palin nor you should be making statements which cannot be proven.

Both Palin and you , who repeated the statement and according to your own rules , should not be making those statements which cannot be proven. That is what you said.


Quote from jem:

It is only the asswipes who make statements which can not be proven.

According to your own unfortunate description, both you and Palin are asswipes.

I suggest it's time for both you and your responses to grow up.
 
Quote from stu:

First I notice you have learned a new word. Someone should let you know using it all the time doesn't help your argument any. It just makes you look like the ignorant crude redneck you clearly are.

Second, neither you nor Palin made the statement which can be proven.

Palin made a statement , you repeated it and tried to perversely turn the need over to prove the statement wrong , onto those you call atheists. First off according to your own words, neither Palin nor you should be making statements which cannot be proven.

Both Palin and you , who repeated the statement and according to your own rules , should not be making those statements which cannot be proven. That is what you said.




According to your own unfortunate description, both you and Palin are asswipes.

I suggest it's time for both you and your responses to grow up.


you are completely full of shit.
 
Time and space son, time and space...

hey dipshit, I was making a temporal only argument.

I should not expect some uneducated muslim troll to understand I guess, especially when you describe time as an absolute that should have tipped me off that you really don't know anything about physics.

You think of residing at a particular place at a particular time that is separate from another place and time, when God resides at all places and no particular place continuously with no starting or ending time.

Christian scholars tried this sort of crap before. Long after they were rebuked, here comes muslim man trapped in the dark ages and thinking he has some intellectually profound ideas. What a great parody of the entire islamic cult.
 
"hey dipshit, I was making a temporal only argument."

Thanks for the correction, I had no idea I was dealing with a one dimensional thinker...

:D :D :D

Quote from Mav88:

hey dipshit, I was making a temporal only argument.

I should not expect some uneducated muslim troll to understand I guess, especially when you describe time as an absolute that should have tipped me off that you really don't know anything about physics.



Christian scholars tried this sort of crap before. Long after they were rebuked, here comes muslim man trapped in the dark ages and thinking he has some intellectually profound ideas. What a great parody of the entire islamic cult.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

All analogies have their limits...

Applying any analogies of things to God, will yield the type of confusion you have when you try to apply that to God.

"where does God reside"

At all places in all times and in no particular place at no particular time.

The problem you are having is common, when God is analyzed from partial point of view.

You think of residing at a particular place at a particular time that is separate from another place and time, when God resides at all places and no particular place continuously with no starting or ending time.

Relativistic logic will forever fail in any understanding of the nature of God...

God is absolute...physical relativism simply cannot grasp the concept of God who exists without any relationship to something separate from God.

the problem i have with what you say is that smthg that "resides" is usually considered separate from the place it resides. yet you claim that god is not a separate entity?
 
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