Quote from atticus:
Went long the AAPL Jan18 440-640 fly from 54.80 risk (50 mid) at 10% this morning.
Quote from atticus:
Down 1.1% impact to the book with the UBS downgrade. IMO too late to sell deltas in spot so I'll wait and see how we close. My guess is that $500 is strong psychological support and may be broken intraday next week, but will hold on a closing basis.
Best guess for VWAP on the remaining 35 days is 522.80.
Quote from newwurldmn:
I tend to agree, except I don't know if I agree with the $500 being broken. But who knows. Anything can happen over the next few days.
There's a lot of capital gains in this stock that could further downside pressure.
Vol is pretty bid. If I had ammunition right now, I would probably looking to do more term structure.
Quote from atticus:
From your mouth to God's ears.... just being pragmatic here as it's getting cratered on a 700 price target by UBS. 700 is fantasy; it won't see that handle in 3 years at least, if ever.
It seemed like a great vol-sale at the 40-line, but it's living up to that number.
Anyway, I am a bull by necessity, but GOOG is eating their lunch.
Quote from newwurldmn:
I am long Jan vol and short Dec vol in GOOG to get my gamma flat for now. I'm down a little bit on this trade. About a vol I think.
RE: AAPL, I agree. 700 is fantasy. The right trade here is long skew. It's flat and vol of vol is pretty high. I can't trade it however as I don't use portfolio margining and thus won't be able to put on the size that will make it interesting for me.
I cut my Dec Jan 550 calls. So now I just have the Dec Jan 500 puts. This cuts about 1/2 my delta exposure and if the stock does rally, I don't have to worry about Jan vol coming in 5 points (about where it was yesterday) and I take some premium off the table just in case.
so I went the exact opposite way I had just suggested.